The Tories

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy

The problems were started by the Tories and the free market deregulation and privatisation in the 1980s which has led to a selfish, over indebited and property obsessed society we live in today. Labour didn't stop it but neither did the governments of almost any other western country.

it could be to do with the brainwashing dumbing down of society with newscorp.
do not underestimate the power of media after all they controlled and spread the news of popular culture.

[ToffeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Less

Just heard on the news, our Prime Minister claiming that the coalition is running on 'a full tank of gas'

Yeah, but the wheels have fallen off, the engine is made in China, compassion has been given the boot and it's on the road to nowhere.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

it makes me sad seeing people with learning difficulties with no support and understanding .what society have we become labeling them scroungers,scapegoats and liabilities .

Most of us understand that every time YOU post on here.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Toffee Guy

The problems were started by the Tories and the free market deregulation and privatisation in the 1980s which has led to a selfish, over indebited and property obsessed society we live in today. Labour didn't stop it but neither did the governments of almost any other western country.

And your trying to tell me that nationalised industries actually worked and paid for themselves, the nationalised industries were all money goblin jobs for jobs sake, white elephants, even now in the NHS the ration pf clinicians to white collar workers is running 1 to 1 for every doctor, nurse etc there's a none productive paper pusher. We live in a capitalist driven world, to try and exist with the clapped socialist system Labour so much idealised would lead to the country being left out in the cold, Socialism doesn't work never has worked unless its been enforced by the rule of the gun and not the ballot box, if you like the way things were I suggest you move to china, they'll welcome you with open arms there, providing to Kowtow and do as your told, when your told, without question.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

it could be to do with the brainwashing dumbing down of society with newscorp.
do not underestimate the power of media after all they controlled and spread the news of popular culture.

Don't think you need much dumbing down you hit rock botton long ago

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

true and have too admit labour didnt go far enough. also today the main charities haave said the big society is dead. The Big Society is dead, charities tell Cameron | The Times the tories are really pitiful first they bring in care in the community then bring in abandon them in the community. it makes me sad seeing people with learning difficulties with no support and understanding .what society have we become labeling them scroungers,scapegoats and liabilities .

Are you a Times subscriber?
Most members wont be able to read the story you linked to without subscribing and logging in. A lot of what the story talks about is rubbish anyway

[Margaret Pilkington]

I cannot, for the life of me, see C'mon reading the times...be it online or in the paper version.
It would be like giving pigs cherries.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I cannot, for the life of me, see C'mon reading the times...be it online or in the paper version.
It would be like giving pigs cherries.

If you are not a subscriber you can only see the first few lines of the story and will have missed the comment by a Downing Street spokesperson at the end of the story explaining why they don't think its dead.

[cmonstanley]

It's ronseal innit

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

It's ronseal innit

You have never once answered with a sensible reply on any subject you raise, could it be your a plant for the Labour Party just reprinting what they send you, without back up information, sure sounds like it to me.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

It's ronseal innit

Well, I am sure we are all familiar with the catchphrase, but that doesn't answer the question that Neil posed.
I fear that is is much as was said...you read a contentious headline and post it without having read anything about the subject, in the publication your link is related to.

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

You have never once answered with a sensible reply on any subject you raise, could it be your a plant for the Labour Party just reprinting what they send you, without back up information, sure sounds like it to me.

Now, now Jay, we all know you won't have a good word said about Labour,even you though can't believe they would even contemplate employing him as their mouthpiece?

He does that party even more harm than your thirteen years of mismanagement speech does to the Torys!

[Neil]

Sorry to those that replied to the stupid post I have just deleted

[Margaret Pilkington]

Neil you did us all a good turn there. Life is far too short to be reading that sort of drivel.

[cmonstanley]

does anybody know why 2 tory ministers have resigned their posts in the last 2 days?



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