The Tories

[accyman]

i dont think UKIP could do any worse of a job than either the tory or labour lot in fact i think it would do the country good to have UKIP in power even if only for 1 year and a new election was forced

it wont happen but it sure would liven politics up a lot and have i got news for you would be a whole lot more fun to watch

isnt it a shame that the two major parties have proven over and over again they are useless and greedy little criminals to the extent the option of anyone but them could be more palatable

[Less]

Originally Posted by accyman

i dont think UKIP could do any worse of a job than either the tory or labour lot in fact i think it would do the country good to have UKIP in power even if only for 1 year and a new election was forced

it wont happen but it sure would liven politics up a lot and have i got news for you would be a whole lot more fun to watch

isnt it a shame that the two major parties have proven over and over again they are useless and greedy little criminals to the extent the option of anyone but them could be more palatable

Excuse me? Little criminals? If any ordinary person swindled expenses the way all the parties elected did, they would still be getting free board and lodgings in Strangeways instead of their free second homes.

I'll believe in politics and politicians again when all the fraudsters are forced out and given the punishment they deserve rather than the blind eye that keeps them in power.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Less

Excuse me? Little criminals? If any ordinary person swindled expenses the way all the parties elected did, they would still be getting free board and lodgings in Strangeways instead of their free second homes.

I'll believe in politics and politicians again when all the fraudsters are forced out and given the punishment they deserve rather than the blind eye that keeps them in power.

problem is they investigate themselves then declare they dont have to be punished.They throw a few to the mercy of the press to show willing but protect the big boys and big hitters..

even if a MP goes to prison he or she can return to telling us how to live

at the very least you would expect a MP not to have a criminal record.You cant work a till at asda with a criminal conviction for theft but you can run the country

[cmonstanley]

the tories not all but david cameron the most dangerous party and person who wants to split the uk for their own ends a new low in politics.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the tories not all but david cameron the most dangerous party and person who wants to split the uk for their own ends a new low in politics.

Are you getting Cameron and that mad fishy woman north of the border confused?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the tories not all but david cameron the most dangerous party and person who wants to split the uk for their own ends a new low in politics.

Can you translate this to make some sort of sense?
Is it : The Tories, not all, but David Cameron....the most dangerous party(just a note to tell you that David Cameron is an individual who happens to be a member of the Tory Party) and person who wants to split the UK for their own ends.
A new low in Politics!

Is that how it should read?
If not then please let us know exactly what you mean.

If you do think that this is a new low in politics then you have a very short memory......there have been many 'lows' in politics.
If you have a couple of days to spare perhaps I could enlighten you on some of them.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

If you have a couple of days to spare perhaps I could enlighten you on some of them.

Oh Margaret what are you doing? Inviting him to put his half baked biases on site when you could be spending your time much more profitably just talking to trees.

[Margaret Pilkington]

He won't have the required time to spare Less...so I am not worried.

[cmonstanley]

he created the referendum to split the labour vote in Scotland .Scotland voted no so he created a lie about the snp lab pack which never in a million years would have happened after last year the only ones who kept mentioning it was the tories and snp and Murdoch

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

he created the referendum to split the labour vote in Scotland .Scotland voted no so he created a lie about the snp lab pack which never in a million years would have happened after last year the only ones who kept mentioning it was the tories and snp and Murdoch

You're being politically naive, cmon.

If it means he can get in No 10 for 5 years, Ed would form a pact with the Devil, the SNP will be no problem.
Lets be honest, if Cameron can get in No 10 for 5 years, he'll form a pact with the SNP!
They'll both say it's so they can have some control over the SNP, the SNP will say it's so they can have some control over whoever is in No 10.

This is politics, don't make the mistake of expecting them to behave by your standards or mine.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

he created the referendum to split the labour vote in Scotland .Scotland voted no so he created a lie about the snp lab pack which never in a million years would have happened after last year the only ones who kept mentioning it was the tories and snp and Murdoch

Your posts still make little or no sense.
And you are as Gordon observes, very naive if you think the Liebour Party would not do,a deal with the SNP. They can never get enough seats to govern without some input from some other party......and even if they don't jump into bed with the SNP......they would still be reliant on piecemeal support.....and Nicola Sturgeon is ruthless enough to manipulate Ed Milliband to get her own agenda fulfilled.

Why on earth would anyone vote Liebour.
Would you give the captain of the Costa Concordia another ship to run onto the rocks?
No, of course you wouldn't.....so why would you let Liebour run the country when they cannot admit that they made major errors on the economy, immigration and they have no plans to offer the electorate a chance to determine their own future either in or out of the EU.

If elected they will have to make cuts, they would have to raise taxes......and they are just as duplicitous as the other parties....they have no intent to make life better for you and me....the Liebour party is exactly like all the others...they look after the rich supporters.
There is no socialist party.....Just paler shades of Tories.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

he created the referendum to split the labour vote in Scotland .

Eh???? It was Wee Eck, bumpin' his gums that wanted the referendum & "Freedom" for the Jockaneesies, he got shown his totty wee hairy arse & now the scion of Salmond, the wee ginger tom Sturgeon is carrying the torch although she won't openly admit it. Or am I missing something here?

[cmonstanley]

You haven't got a clue what happened in the referendum last year no way there will be any deals with the separatists how many times does ed milliband have to say it . David cameron didn't need to have a referendum the Scottish parliament didn't have the powers . He likes to divide and conquer just like the division he tried to create with going on about a referendum about europe . That backfired with the emergence of ukip whose leader is married to a german with a french name the irony lol you are being politically naive politics has changed beyond recognition the tories have cteated unstabilty just what murdoch wants and is running scared because ed wants to bring in media laws about ownership.

[cmonstanley]

And the polls are wrong about the snp as they haven't made room for tactical voting that is going to happen. Tories are voting labour labour are voting tory and everybody is voting lib dem in the appropriate constituencies don't believe the murdoch press

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Your posts still make little or no sense.
And you are as Gordon observes, very naive if you think the Liebour Party would not do,a deal with the SNP. They can never get enough seats to govern without some input from some other party......and even if they don't jump into bed with the SNP......they would still be reliant on piecemeal support.....and Nicola Sturgeon is ruthless enough to manipulate Ed Milliband to get her own agenda fulfilled.

Why on earth would anyone vote Liebour.
Would you give the captain of the Costa Concordia another ship to run onto the rocks?
No, of course you wouldn't.....so why would you let Liebour run the country when they cannot admit that they made major errors on the economy, immigration and they have no plans to offer the electorate a chance to determine their own future either in or out of the EU.

If elected they will have to make cuts, they would have to raise taxes......and they are just as duplicitous as the other parties....they have no intent to make life better for you and me....the Liebour party is exactly like all the others...they look after the rich supporters.
There is no socialist party.....Just paler shades of Tories.

So..what is your answer..what will you do to effect a change?

It's all too easy to snipe at someone who has convictions, no matter how misguided and simplistic, without offering an alternative.

It's also so easy to say 'they are all the same'..and write 'none of the above' on your ballot paper....which the official counter just chucks in the 'shows how wasted magna carta, suffragettes, WW1 & 2 was' bin without giving your opinion a second thought.

I'm a socialist..but i'm voting for an ultra right UKIP...

Why?....send me a PM asking why a Labour run LCC is enforcing cuts to private sector social care whilst ploughing money into LCC social care

Or...why a Labour run Hyndburn council ( many of whom are related/close friends) feel that they can get some councillor living in Rishton deciding its best to move a war memorial in Huncoat regardless of public feeling (oh wait..this is what his leader is doing over the EU)..

You really need to put your 'X' where it 'MAY' count