The Ultimate Insult - Page 6

Benipete · 02-10-2011, 10:42

There comes a time when you have to ask yourself.

How many Slovakian and Romanian goat herders do we really need.

jaysay · 02-10-2011, 10:43

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Originally Posted by garinda

Well let me be your eyes.

Mancie said that the majority of British M.E.P.' s are Conservative.

He was right.

They have twice as many M.E.P.'s living the high life in Brussels as their nearest rival parties, U.K.I.P., and Labour.

Yes but he then went on to again have a dig at HMG as usual

garinda · 02-10-2011, 10:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Yes but he then went on to again have a dig at HMG as usual

Well since we've had a coalition government for sixteen months, and we're still being shafted by the E.U., perhaps he has a point about the government's lack of action.

Cameron was interviewed this morning on the B.B.C., saying he supports continuing membership of the E.U.

The British people overwhelmingly don't.

Each successive government are too afraid to let the people have a referendum, on what's changed from a trade alliance, which they voted for, to what by stealth it's become today, a governing of Britain from Brussels.

Margaret Pilkington · 02-10-2011, 11:30

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Originally Posted by garinda

The British people overwhelmingly don't.

Again this just demonstates the arrogance of politicians. They do not listen to the concerns of the electorate....the ones who are paying them to do a job.
I guess they reckon if they stay in the EU it will mean a lot less work for them(getting out will be harder than trying to get toothpaste back into the tube)....and if Brussels makes the rules........do we really need any MP's.

According to a newspaper this morning, Mp's are going to vote on whether to let the public have a referendum on our continuing membership of the EU.......but, and it is a big but, the results will not be legally binding on the government. So I feel that it is just a ploy to placate those of us who feel that the EU is a Frankenstein monster that will eventually do what two world wars could not.

jaysay · 02-10-2011, 11:38

The bottom line is, its not that simple just to say right we're kicking the European Union into touch, far from it, I recon if it was decided that we were to pull out it would take about 20 years to totally complete the exercise, its not just a case oh well pull out next Wednesday

Margaret Pilkington · 02-10-2011, 11:56

John, if it took twenty years to leave at least we would not be giving Brussels any more sovereignty over our country.

Just because something is difficult it should not mean that you don't contemplate doing it......especially if the majority of the people in this country feel it is right...which won't ever be known unless we get the chance to give our views.

I have never felt any different about the EU. In 1975 I voted NO. I didn't think it was a good idea then.......I felt we were being bamboozled......that was my gut instinct.

I don't feel that it is just that faceless people in Brussels make rules that affect all parts of our lives.........and we can do burger all about it.
I don't want people who I have not elected or had any part in the election of, making rules for me......because it means we have no right of redress.
Our own politicians(useless bunch of monkeys - with a very few exceptions) have tried to ignore the growing concerns.....because any action to rectify the situation was felt to be fraught with difficulty and the longer it has gone on the worse it has become.

It really needs definitive action of someone who is brave........I don't reckon any of the incumbents fit that description....do you?

Retlaw · 02-10-2011, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I have never felt any different about the EU. In 1975 I voted NO. I didn't think it was a good idea then.......I felt we were being bamboozled......that was my gut instinct.

I didn't vote for it either. The frogs have never forgiven us for saving their arses in two world wars.
De Gaule showed his true colours in 1945. Thats what comes of helping people.
And jerry for giving them a right shelacking, again in two world wars.
My thoughts at the time were they can't lick us at feighting, but they will screw us in the boardroom.
Retlaw.

Wynonie Harris · 02-10-2011, 18:00

Yet another reason to leave...

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: £42m child benefit sent abroad

...and still Cameron refuses to give us a referendum. Obviously, he's far more concerned about placating his masters in Brussels, than he is about the wishes of the British people.

Margaret Pilkington · 02-10-2011, 18:04

Yes, this money is going towards helping growth in another country......boosting their economy instead of ours.

Margaret Pilkington · 02-10-2011, 18:06

Oh yes, and it should be noted that if the parent who is claiming the money for children back in the home country, once that parent returns to their homeland the benefit doesn't stop........oh dear No....it is continued to be paid. A travesty.

Margaret Pilkington · 02-10-2011, 18:07

I don't think I should participate in this thread any more...it is doing my blood pressure no damn good at all!

mobertol · 02-10-2011, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't think I should participate in this thread any more...it is doing my blood pressure no damn good at all!

Margaret -I am as incredulous as you at all this siphoning off of tax-payers money out of the UK -had absolutely no idea - but please don't let it make you ill...

Looks like the "Ministry of Silly Walks" has been allowed to creep in and take over. Unbelievable

"A spokesman for HM Revenue & Customs said: “Child benefit payments are in line with EU rules which have been in force for more than 30 years."
So how much has gone out over the years?

“We do not pay child benefit for children living in another EU member state until we are sure the claim is legitimate.”

Have they popping over to Poland or wherever to check they haven't been bumping up the number of offspring on the sly?

The spokesman added that most of the *payments are made directly into bank accounts in *foreign countries.
That's very nice of them -at least they don't have the hassle of making money transfers...

accyman · 02-10-2011, 19:47

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Originally Posted by mobertol

“We do not pay child benefit for children living in another EU member state until we are sure the claim is legitimate.”

i dont know the figures but it wasnt too long ago it was made public that quite a lot of immigrants were/are claiming for children abroad that dont even exist

mobertol · 02-10-2011, 20:02

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Originally Posted by accyman

i dont know the figures but it wasnt too long ago it was made public that quite a lot of immigrants were/are claiming for children abroad that dont even exist

I can believe it -if people can fiddle benefits here it must be much easier at thousands of KM distance. A quick back-hander in the local town hall to get a certificate showing the number of family members and their DOB....

Margaret Pilkington · 02-10-2011, 20:47

Oh, it won't make me ill...I don't actually have a problem with my blood pressure...well not that I know of anyway. I just get really angry that people who should not be able to take money from our pockets, will be allowed to do so with ease, if the EU has its way.

Politicians have taken the line of least resistance in respect of benefits as well as the EU.
It is time there was a radical overhaul of both.