The value of public funded art

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by katex

I just hope that eventually a new state of the art bus station will be built

Are you still beating that drum ?

Did it not die a death with the bus lane the other day ?

There's a big square in Broadway, move the chavs and use that

[yerself]

Originally Posted by katex

Maybe, they will spend the few extra bob there that they have left over.

They can take a stroll along Blackburn Road and see if the £1 a pint offer's still on at The Calder.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by yerself

They can take a stroll along Blackburn Road and see if the £1 a pint offer's still on at The Calder.

Is it open ? It was evacuated yesterday

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Less

Five? Ten years? A life time?

How long can we support useless projects before it's too late to give this much needed money for apprenticeships in proper jobs?

Do we just do this because it costs less than making real jobs?

I think we do!

Sadly I don't think there are many apprenticeship schemes, now we are mainly an airy-fairy service industry nation.

Though there may be some in crocheting.

[yerself]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Is it open ? It was evacuated yesterday

Did they run out of cheap ale?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by yerself

They can take a stroll along Blackburn Road and see if the £1 a pint offer's still on at The Calder.

The film's a roaring success!

Now everyone knows who has the cheapest ale.

Soon they'll come from miles around, leading their dogs on bits of string.

Accy, alky capital of the northwest.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Are you still beating that drum ?

Did it not die a death with the bus lane the other day ?

There's a big square in Broadway, move the chavs and use that

Change those realism specs, for some rose tinted ones.

They're only a pound on Broadway.

Everything looks great.

It's like being in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by katex

I still think it unfair to say that this money could be spent better on this and that. It has been said that the Market Hall should have been left as it was .... well, yes, cold, dark and miserable.

Ok ... firstly, the Flash Mob. Cost £1,000.

It has given 200 people, of all ages ...suspect a lot of younger people though, certainly many teenagers coming through the Arts Centre door one night I was there, the opportunity to learn a little about the art of dance movements and form a great camaraderie and possibly lead on this initial interest to better things within the world of dance. That is one good reason for this project.

It is fun and bringing it into the town centre can only brighten up the lives of many shoppers if only for a short while and will put a smile on their faces. Happy people will shop better. The centre has to be promoted as a fun place to be initially.

I just hope that eventually a new state of the art bus station will be built to welcome any visitors, and that Peel Street can be turned into a lovely square where events can be held regularly ... takes time to build up what you all think we have lost. We didn't lose anything .... just the addition of Supermarkets. Would be great to think that after shoppers have filled up their boots with Tesco branded goods, then they may just think "Oh, there is a theatre company enacting Victorian swimming, let's just pop down and see it" Maybe, they will spend the few extra bob there that they have left over.

Next ....

A new bus station which in turn opens up other possibilities for Peel St, could still act as a catalyst in re-energizing the Town Centre in my view

[Less]

Originally Posted by garinda

Change those realism specs, for some rose tinted ones.

They're only a pound on Broadway.

Everything looks great.

It's like being in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

I somehow think you could get them cheaper from our tourism centre, after all whenever I want a blue or White recycling sack that is the place I and our American Cousans flock to!

[katex]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

But our parents all paid tax and rates, I also worked and paid tax for eight years before going back into full time education, but that was how it was done then. I can't speak for Garinda, but I received a total grant of £1500 for the whole three years.

As did mine A-B and probably people who are getting Arts' lessons free. ! £1,500 (£500 per year) would be a decent amount then. Sorry, don't really know how old you are, but think ? .. no better not...

Would be interesting to know what benefit you have given back to our community for this privilege outlay.

Know Garinda did produce expensive shirts for the wealthy.

Originally Posted by garinda

I think people 'shop better' when they've still got some spare money left in their purse, after paying bills...and taxes.

It is the less well off in our society that do shop in town to visit the pound and charity shops. We need to attract the better off that can afford to shop at the Supermarkets.

Originally Posted by garinda

Though there may be some in crocheting.

Crocheting I would put more under the category of skill rather than art, although it becomes an art when it is used to crochet items which cannot be used for clothing or table cloths. A skill that was passed from mother to daughter intertwining yarns to give poorer people the opportunity to have lovely garments too expensive in the shops. Surely not a bad thing with the shortage of disposable income these days.

[Margaret Pilkington]

all of these 'gimmicky' things do nothing but make us look like yokels......who can be diverted with such irrelevancies, when there are more serious things we should be concentrating on. Broadway is a dump with a surface that cost god knows how much, is coming off in places,is grubby......and a certain someone thought was good value for money.
Somewhere along the way we have got our priorities mixed up. Liked I said earlier, you don't go to the pictures when you have rent to pay and bread to buy.

Kate if young folk want to learn how to dance, then I am sure there are the places where they could learn this skill...at a reasonable price.
I will certainly be avoiding the town centre when these 'events' are put on...and I think that many of my generation will probably do the same.....when I go shopping, that is what I want to do...shop, not avoid dancing 'flashmobs'

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

A new bus station which in turn opens up other possibilities for Peel St, could still act as a catalyst in re-energizing the Town Centre in my view

In what way ?

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Kate if young folk want to learn how to dance, then I am sure there are the places where they could learn this skill...at a reasonable price.

The Council must regret the demise of the 'Ossy Cloggers', they didn't have 'backing', their funding came from the children dancing their little legs away whilst parents went around with a bucket, many times at the drop of a floppy hat would they turn up at the Councils request to entertain and amuse the passer bye.
What do we have now Kate? and at whose expense?

If only the Council had made sure those talented folk would keep going instead of the dross we now experience at great expense.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by katex

Crocheting I would put more under the category of skill rather than art, although it becomes an art when it is used to crochet items which cannot be used for clothing or table cloths.

A li'l dolly?

A pretty egg cosy?

A bleedin' caterpillar?

Do they become crocheted art pieces?

What's the weather like, as well as the art, in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

(Rather than bore everyone else, I'll happily supply my full c.v. if you p.m me, as you obviously know so very little.)

[garinda]

Still no news on the cost of funding the Victorian Swimming Gala?

People need to know, so they can better decide 'the value of public funded art'?

Not a state secret, surely?