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View Poll Results: Should public money fund community art projects?
Yes, it should. I value them. 3 11.54%
No, it shouldn't. I don't see their value. 23 88.46%
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Old 28-10-2010, 07:24   #121
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And here's me working for a living.

Who's the bigger fool?
Well get your grant application in quick, buy a bra, and a copy of the Racing Times, and get spending all that money, courtesy of the tax payers of Britain.

'A publicly funded exhibition is encouraging people to deface the Bible in the name of art and visitors have responded with abuse and obscenity.
The show includes a video of a woman ripping pages from the Bible and stuffing them into her bra, knickers and mouth.'
Gallery’s invitation to deface the Bible brings obscene response -Times Online
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Old 28-10-2010, 07:26   #122
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Well get your grant application in quick, buy a bra, and a copy of the Racing Times, and get spending all that money, courtesy of the tax payers of Britain.

'A publicly funded exhibition is encouraging people to deface the Bible in the name of art and visitors have responded with abuse and obscenity.
The show includes a video of a woman ripping pages from the Bible and stuffing them into her bra, knickers and mouth.'
Gallery’s invitation to deface the Bible brings obscene response -Times Online
I don't know much about art...

..and I'm glad.
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Old 28-10-2010, 07:33   #123
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I don't know much about art...

..and I'm glad.
I do.

Though I'll never agree that tax payers' money should be spent commissioning it.

As stated way back, historically the Soviet systen was the largest ever supporter of state funded art, and it was all risibly bad.
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Old 28-10-2010, 07:51   #124
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I do.

Though I'll never agree that tax payers' money should be spent commissioning it.

As stated way back, historically the Soviet systen was the largest ever supporter of state funded art, and it was all risibly bad.
It's all dumped in a field outside Budapest now, tended by the residents who try to scrape a bit of money out of visiting tourists.

It wasn't really very good at the time and no one still has any idea of what to do with it now, much like our own 'art' cluttering up the storerooms of galleries up and down the country.
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Old 28-10-2010, 08:01   #125
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I see art in many things - what is art?

To me, art is beauty and beauty is art. A piece of machinery that has been made by man, A beautiful woman, a painting or sculpture by one of the great old masters and some of the newer ones, a bir'd wing, a flower, even an aeroplane - but a dirty unmade bed, a sheep in formaldehyde, a pile of rubble, absolutely no way and no way should things like that, or the "training" to produce such garbage, be funded either by our taxes or Camelot.
Like many others, I thought that Camelot was going to subscribe to worthwhile causes - once again i got it wrong:-(((
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Old 28-10-2010, 08:15   #126
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I see art in many things - what is art?

To me, art is beauty and beauty is art. A piece of machinery that has been made by man, A beautiful woman, a painting or sculpture by one of the great old masters and some of the newer ones, a bir'd wing, a flower, even an aeroplane - but a dirty unmade bed, a sheep in formaldehyde, a pile of rubble, absolutely no way and no way should things like that, or the "training" to produce such garbage, be funded either by our taxes or Camelot.
Like many others, I thought that Camelot was going to subscribe to worthwhile causes - once again i got it wrong:-(((
Great post.

A great many of the masterpieces of yesteryear weren't subsidised so why should any modern day works be funded, with a public entry fee charged in the galleries on top? I see it as paying people to have a hobby, although perhaps my vision is skewed by not having the same benefits as a real ale researcher.

I have a great love for steam engines (something my wife really couldn't care less about) but the East Lancashire Railway which preserves old engines operates as a business and if it ever runs out of money then that's that. It's a part of our industrial heritage, particularly in Lancashire, and something I consider to be very beautiful craftsmanship, but it isn't subsidised and is expected to be self-sufficient to survive.
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Old 28-10-2010, 08:46   #127
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I see art in many things - what is art?

To me, art is beauty and beauty is art. A piece of machinery that has been made by man, A beautiful woman, a painting or sculpture by one of the great old masters and some of the newer ones, a bir'd wing, a flower, even an aeroplane - but a dirty unmade bed, a sheep in formaldehyde, a pile of rubble, absolutely no way and no way should things like that, or the "training" to produce such garbage, be funded either by our taxes or Camelot.
Like many others, I thought that Camelot was going to subscribe to worthwhile causes - once again i got it wrong:-(((
Poetry, sheer Poetry, did you get a grant for it or are you just going to donate it to the nation without any thought of reward?
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Old 28-10-2010, 08:53   #128
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I'm not saying cut the lottery. There are two parts to the lottery. First, the company that puts the terminals in the shops, does the advertising and collects the dosh. After taking it's cut and paying out the prizes, it then pays out the 'good cause' money to the quango then distributes it.

It is this second part that needs abolishing and the money should then go direct to the cities, towns & villages according to how much has been spent in the first instance.
Sorry Tealeaf I misunderstood you, but I totally agree with what you have said above
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I don't know much about art...

..and I'm glad.
You and me alike Ken, never been artyfarty myself
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never been artyfarty myself
Some have to be airy-fairy.

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Some have to be airy-fairy.

The bigger the fairy the bigger the grant?
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The bigger the fairy the bigger the grant?
That depends on whether the fairy's crocheted, and hanging in Accy Market Hall, or made of steel, a' top a hill in Gateshead.

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Old 28-10-2010, 09:39   #133
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Artists Taking the Lead
More like artists taking the .................................................. .................mickey.
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Old 28-10-2010, 09:52   #134
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Here's the winning work of Art for the North West.

Anthony McCall - Column | Artists taking the mick
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Here's the winning work of Art for the North West.

Anthony McCall - Column | Artists taking the mick
A load of hot air?

I'm sure the scallies will grow to love this challeging art installation, as it rises twenty five meters above Birkenhead.

Definitely worth a ferry ride across the Mersey, to catch this wonder of the modern age.

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