This Sceptred Isle

[gynn]

Its a strange old island, isn't it, shared between Scotland, Wales and England. Each with its own sense of national pride.

Mention Scottish national pride, and it conjures up images of the kilt, the sporron, haggis, whisky, Loch Lomond, Edinburgh Castle, the bagpipes......

Talk about Welsh national pride, and you think of daffodils, leeks, Snowdonia, male voice choirs and eisteddfords....

Speak of English national pride and you must be a racist, fascist thug to the right of the National Front.

Strange old island, isn't it!

[jedimaster]

completely agree I take pride in my heritage and feel that whoever you are and wherever you come from you should be proud of your heritage it is what and who you are and unfortunately due to a minority of people defacing the english nationality the majority have been forced to lose their heritage and therefore their identity.
england may be a multiracial, multiethnic, multicultural,multifaith society but that doesn't stop people being who they are, or their god given right to celebrate that fact equally and without prejudice.

[Margaret Pilkington]

We seem to be apologists for our national history and background.
It seems that national pride has been hijacked by suspect political groups...and so we are all devalued by it.

[garinda]

Perhaps we're always going to face a bit of a dichotomy, when it comes to national identity, being from two tribes of people, the Angles, and the Saxons.

Perhaps it's more straightforward, being one of the Celtic nations.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by gynn

Its a strange old island, isn't it, shared between Scotland, Wales and England. Each with its own sense of national pride.

Mention Scottish national pride, and it conjures up images of the kilt, the sporron, haggis, whisky, Loch Lomond, Edinburgh Castle, the bagpipes......

Talk about Welsh national pride, and you think of daffodils, leeks, Snowdonia, male voice choirs and eisteddfords....

Speak of English national pride and you must be a racist, fascist thug to the right of the National Front.

Strange old island, isn't it!

Whenever I have to state my nationality it is English - I don't want to be taken for one of the others.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

We seem to be apologists for our national history and background.
It seems that national pride has been hijacked by suspect political groups...and so we are all devalued by it.

Ya these apologists only speak for themselves but we all get tarred with the same brush

[Gremlin]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Whenever I have to state my nationality it is English - I don't want to be taken for one of the others.

Likewise Barry,
I remember back in about 1967 ish when I was presenting my passport at Dover to travel to France, I also had to fill a small form in and one question asked my Nationality, I put English and the office clown tore the form up and told me to put British. I objected but was told if I didn't conform there was no boarding of the ship. I put British just to keep him happy.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Likewise Barry,
I remember back in about 1967 ish when I was presenting my passport at Dover to travel to France, I also had to fill a small form in and one question asked my Nationality, I put English and the office clown tore the form up and told me to put British. I objected but was told if I didn't conform there was no boarding of the ship. I put British just to keep him happy.

Dd he have a sign on his hat saying Jobsworth, Gremlin

[jedimaster]

works the other way too, they look at you daft when you put Welsh and there is never an option for it on forms.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jedimaster

works the other way too, they look at you daft when you put Welsh and there is never an option for it on forms.

Try fitting in Norman, with Scandinavian roots.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by jedimaster

they look at you daft when you put Welsh .

I wonder why?

[jedimaster]

Originally Posted by garinda

Try fitting in Norman, with Scandinavian roots.

another one of the OTHER's then

[jedimaster]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I wonder why?

Nowt wrong with us matey after all we're the ones that put a roof over you foreigner's heads Literally!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jedimaster

another one of the OTHER's then

'Fraid so.

Know it's wrong, but I do look down my Nordic nose at those Germanic Angles and Saxons.

Yup, I'm a racist.

[Less]

Originally Posted by garinda

Try fitting in Norman, with Scandinavian roots.

I heard rumours about you & Norman, though I'm surprised he didn't insist you saw your hairdresser, nothing worse than waking up & the first thing you see is Scandinavian roots!