Town Council forms. - Page 6

cashman · 12-05-2008, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I have no issue with that. Only that you seemed to be blaming people earlier on when you have no idea who is responsible.

what a load of garbage, reading the link to the obsever that rindy posted, it don't take interpol.

andrewb · 12-05-2008, 21:21

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Originally Posted by cashman

what a load of garbage, reading the link to the obsever that rindy posted, it don't take interpol.

You must know something the rest of us don't then. We all know the council said they were sending forms out to everyone. I want to know why everyone hasn't got them. I'm not going to go blaming the council when I have no idea if they are the ones responsible though.

Garinda your argument is weak, party politics? What has that got to do with anything?? As for who you've blamed, you constantly refer to the council and suggest that a shambles is what you expect of them.

I'm more open minded and waiting to cast judgement until we find out the reasons and who is to blame.

katex · 12-05-2008, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I have no issue with that. Only that you seemed to be blaming people earlier on when you have no idea who is responsible.

Will endorse what Garinda has said Cyfr sweetheart .. we are just trying to find out why we did not all get these forms as promised .. I was particularly interested in this issue as stated in other threads, and just disappointed did not receive one... and definitely didn't

Can't blame anyone yet, as don't know, just waiting for feedback from various sources.

garinda · 12-05-2008, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

You must know something the rest of us don't then. We all know the council said they were sending forms out to everyone. I want to know why everyone hasn't got them. I'm not going to go blaming the council when I have no idea if they are the ones responsible though.

Since this important proposal is currently under consideration, using the findings of the returned forms, and the return by day has now passed for any other feedback to be considered, who is to blame is not the point.

The point is the feedback is flawed, with the vast majority of residents unable to give their opinion.

The point is the council said in the press that every household would be sent a form.

The point is many people, the vast majority according to our small poll, never received a form.

andrewb · 12-05-2008, 21:31

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Originally Posted by katex

Will endorse what Garinda has said Cyfr sweetheart .. we are just trying to find out why we did not all get these forms as promised .. I was particularly interested in this issue as stated in other threads, and just disappointed did not receive one... and definitely didn't

Can't blame anyone yet, as don't know, just waiting for feedback from various sources.

Definitely. Completely agree that you should follow this up, you're doing a huge favour to anybody else who wanted to let their views be known but didn't have the chance.

I just have issue with people trying to play the blame game before we actually know what's what, but it seems you're not doing that, you're simply after a voice. A voice which you rightly deserve!

garinda · 12-05-2008, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

you constantly refer to the council

Yes, the council, a non-generic term for a group of people who it appears have made one almighty blunder.

It's up to other people to discover if any one person is to blame for this debacle.

Royboy39 · 12-05-2008, 21:34

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Originally Posted by katex

Do you mean they are not putting up new signs then for the actual borough ??

Forget it.

andrewb · 12-05-2008, 21:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

Since this important proposal is currently under consideration, using the findings of the returned forms, and the return by day has now passed for any other feedback to be considered, who is to blame is not the point.

The point is the feedback is flawed, with the vast majority of residents unable to give their opinion.

The point is the council said in the press that every household would be sent a form.

The point is many people, the vast majority according to our small poll, never received a form.

I do think we're pointlessly replying to each other now, because you know I accept the fact that people have not had forms. That is not what I'm disagreeing on in my posts.

I'm glad you're not blaming anybody anymore.

garinda · 12-05-2008, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I just have issue with people trying to play the blame game before we actually know what's what, but it seems you're not doing that, you're simply after a voice. A voice which you rightly deserve!

I'm blaming nobody.

Just stating facts.

A large number of people never recieved this important document.

Fact.

As stated earlier, funny how the council tax bills manage to find each and every one of us.

Fact.

andrewb · 12-05-2008, 21:37

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Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, the council, a non-generic term for a group of people who it appears have made one almighty blunder.

It's up to other people to discover if any one person is to blame for this debacle.

Sorry but you're again blaming the council. Please provide proof that it is them. I'm pretty sure the council (made up of council members, or councillors), didn't send out the mail completely on their own.

BERNADETTE · 12-05-2008, 21:37

Am I missing something here? In the link from the Observer it states that "Hyndburn Council" were sending these forms out to every resident in the borough. So if they made the promise are they not responsible to make sure it is followed through?

andrewb · 12-05-2008, 21:40

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Am I missing something here? In the link from the Observer it states that "Hyndburn Council" were sending these forms out to every resident in the borough. So if they made the promise are they not responsible to make sure it is followed through?

Of course they're responsible for fixing it whoever is to blame for people not receiving the forms. Katex has contacted somebody over the issue so they are now aware and should sort it out. I just don't think its right to blame the council when it could be something completely out of their control.

I am not suggesting the council are innocent by the way, I'm not calling it either way. If it turns out it is their fault, I'll be all too happy to condemn them as a u-turn it would not be.

cashman · 12-05-2008, 21:51

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Am I missing something here? In the link from the Observer it states that "Hyndburn Council" were sending these forms out to every resident in the borough. So if they made the promise are they not responsible to make sure it is followed through?

nah cyfr is saying blame the postie/ distributor anyone BUT the council.