Ukip - Page 9

DaveinGermany · 04-05-2013, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

"Do you ever expect the LibDems to be anything other than a party that latches on to Tory/Labour coat tails, and thereby acheives, through a form of bribery, a minor say in the ruling of the Country"?

Aye, they're the gimpy kid that wants to hang out with the big boys & the big boys let him only to amuse themselves & torment when they're bored. Utterly useless party, but the new kid on the block looks to be a different prospect.

accyman · 04-05-2013, 09:10

lol just spotted this on another site..

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Retired headteacher Philip Fawkes, who shared a common ancestor with the famous Gunpowder Plotter, won the South Waterside ward in Hampshire County Council for UKIP.

now theres a guy i woulda voted for just in the hope he finished his familys work

jaysay · 04-05-2013, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Guinness

And the platitudes begin..

Labour ..'our gains prove the public believe in One Nation, we don't have any real alternative, but hey, we won tons of seats'....
Translation...we got 30% of the vote...3 out of 10 want us and only 2 out of 10 want the tories, lets ignore the logic that 5 out of 10 don't want either of us'

Tories...'we're giving the people what they want, they just don't realise it yet, but they will by 2015'
Translation..'cor blimey guv, we've been rumbled, lets screw them for another year then lie to them in the 12 months leading up to the election'

Libdem..'we are still the 3rd party in lancashire because we have 6 seats from 6% of the vote'

Translation....erm, UKIP got 14% and no seats, guys maybe proportional representation aint the way to go after all'

You know they made smoking in pubs illegal, smacking your kids illegal, kicking terrorists out of the country illegal..yet they still manage to make a voting system where the majority are totally ignored legal

Its surprising that even when they're getting on in years and probably involved in politics too, people haven't sussed that the colour flying over town halls is usually the opposite to the one flying over Westminster, can't remember it being any different nor will it ever change

jaysay · 04-05-2013, 09:14

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Now that there appears to be a viable alternative protest vote - UKIP, I now wish we did have proportional representation. Thought the interviewer of Clegg yesterday missed a wonderful question - "Do you ever expect the LibDems to be anything other than a party that latches on to Tory/Labour coat tails, and thereby acheives, through a form of bribery, a minor say in the ruling of the Country"?

The only gains in Thursdays poll was that new party who won countless councils that new party is NOC

accyman · 04-05-2013, 09:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Its surprising that even when they're getting on in years and probably involved in politics too, people haven't sussed that the colour flying over town halls is usually the opposite to the one flying over Westminster, can't remember it being any different nor will it ever change

yer quite correct its as though any elected council is a protest council

so labour council you may be feeling popular with the people of hyndburn right now but in reality your only there because the torys are screwing up so bad and vice versa when torys are in power lol

cashman · 04-05-2013, 09:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay

The only gains in Thursdays poll was that new party who won countless councils that new party is NOC

Its the underlying threat from Thursdays vote, But yeh seem as bad as cmon at not grasping it.

jaysay · 04-05-2013, 09:48

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Originally Posted by cashman

Its the underlying threat from Thursdays vote, But yeh seem as bad as cmon at not grasping it.

Cashy I've seen it all before, it used to be the Liberals then the Lib/dems, now UKIP, at a general election they won't get anywhere near the 24% they got on Thursday, believe me, I'll bet you a penny stick of spanish

DtheP47 · 04-05-2013, 09:49

Hey AND the Dingles final got rid of the BNP something is afoot across there. *chuckle*

cashman · 04-05-2013, 10:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Cashy I've seen it all before, it used to be the Liberals then the Lib/dems, now UKIP, at a general election they won't get anywhere near the 24% they got on Thursday, believe me, I'll bet you a penny stick of spanish

Oh but i reckon they will actually get as many,if not more, so Raise yeh some kali?

What yer not taking into account,in the past people used to believe the main parties.

jaysay · 04-05-2013, 10:17

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Originally Posted by cashman

Oh but i reckon they will actually get as many,if not more, so Raise yeh some kali?

Your on Pal

Guinness · 04-05-2013, 19:43

Despite the evidence of the polls in Lancashire that 5 out of 10 people (of the 3 out of 10 people that actual voted in this unfair and outdated electoral system) do not want either Labour or Tory anywhere near our county council...here's the official Labour self serving smug gloat!

I could swear there were at least 10 people cheering these disproportionate victories.

Unfortunately, Jones and his cronies will continue to crow like this because the voting system is so heavily weighted against the ordinary man in the street. Things have to change, they fudged the proportional representation referendum by making it so complex that nobody in their right mind would vote for it and pushed the idea back 20 years. (Mark my words they will do the same with the EU referendum).

accyman · 04-05-2013, 19:58

if its one person one vote then the winner should be who gets the most votes

i dont see how that can be made more simple

all anything else does is defeat the idea of 1 person 1 vote

mind you as soon as any party gets in within 2 years they chop and change boundaries etc

this current lot want to abolish hyndburn alltogether which until we get a different MP is as good as done anyway because he sure as hell isnt representing us when it comes to the EU and ensuring we get our democratic rights