Unions flexing their muscles again - Page 7

Mancie · 21-03-2010, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Stumped

It's difficult to take an objective view over any strike situation. There are clearly rights and wrongs on both sides of any given dispute. But essentially it is the consumer who suffers, either through lack of service or personal loss. Yes, unions plainly do have a part to play in negotiating what they see as best for their members, but this should never be at an increased cost to those who are often left stranded on the fringe of things when problems become insurmountable through the intransigence of the parties involved.

All very good Stumped and most right thinking people would agree with you.. but where is the line drawn between servicing the public or being shoved into a postion were there is no other option but to make a stand?.. who has the responsibilty to serve the customers?.. the workforce or the directors?

Margaret Pilkington · 21-03-2010, 21:43

There is awlays someone ready to jump into the breech left by those who withdraw their labour.......this was never more true than today when an eastern eurpoean worker will jump at the chance to do the job once done by one of us.

Mancie · 21-03-2010, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

There is awlays someone ready to jump into the breech left by those who withdraw their labour.......this was never more true than today when an eastern eurpoean worker will jump at the chance to do the job once done by one of us.

Very true.. but then again not so long ago a strong union would not allow that.. think about it..umm... I know it that maybe hard work for you but maybe you could order a brain from the pizza takeaway and have it delivered.. (by some ****** from the eastern block)

Stumped · 21-03-2010, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Mancie

All very good Stumped and most right thinking people would agree with you.. but where is the line drawn between servicing the public or being shoved into a postion were there is no other option but to make a stand?.. who has the responsibilty to serve the customers?.. the workforce or the directors?

The buck should always stop at the man at the top, after all that's what he's payed for - and pretty well, too by all accounts.

BERNADETTE · 21-03-2010, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Very true.. but then again not so long ago a strong union would not allow that.. think about it..umm... I know it that maybe hard work for you but maybe you could order a brain from the pizza takeaway and have it delivered.. (by some ****** from the eastern block)

No need for that Marg always puts forward a well thought out balanced response and insults are belittling you not her Mancie so think before you post

Mancie · 21-03-2010, 22:14

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

No need for that Marg always puts forward a well thought out balanced response and insults are belittling you not her Mancie so think before you post

Yes it was a "well balanced" but if people have the attitude that you work you work till you drop for fear of some eastern european taking your job, then we are really going back to the Victorian age.. an age were most of us would be dead before middle age...some people crave for those times..those people are idiots.

garinda · 21-03-2010, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Yes it was a "well balanced" but if people have the attitude that you work you work till you drop for fear of some eastern european taking your job, then we are really going back to the Victorian age.. an age were most of us would be dead before middle age...some people crave for those times..those people are idiots.

They were poor, but they were happy Mancie.

...and a girl with Rickets would be able to cover her unsightly disability, because dresses and skirts were longer in the good old days. So even she'd be happy in her ignorance.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-03-2010, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Very true.. but then again not so long ago a strong union would not allow that.. think about it..umm... I know it that maybe hard work for you but maybe you could order a brain from the pizza takeaway and have it delivered.. (by some ****** from the eastern block)

Mancie, you do not advance your argument by making cheap jibes.
I do have a brain, I can think, and it isn't hard work for me to think........I don't need to order a brain from a takeaway pizza place.

Before I retired I had a taxing and responsible job.
I would thank you not to insult me to try and win points.
I do not belittle you for your opinions, so please have the courtesy to offer me the same respectfor my opinions.
Oh and just by the way I have no political affilliation, which is why I will take a pin with me to the polling booth.

garinda · 22-03-2010, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

...which is why I will take a pin with me to the polling booth.

No violence, Marg!

Oh, sorry, the pin's to help you to decide who to vote for, and not a weapon.

Apologies.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-03-2010, 11:39

got it in one Gary!

garinda · 22-03-2010, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

got it in one Gary!

Phew.

I had visions of you going charging in, with a lethal lookin' hat pin.

jaysay · 22-03-2010, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Mancie

So the "beleaguered" coal miners and steel workers would have been better off if they had towed the line and not questioned any job cuts, pay cuts, worked 12 hours a day under conditions that meant you were dead before your kids?... I don't know how old you are Stumped but I know old Tory "values" when I see them.. go back to living in your dream of the good old days when t'boss at t'mill would send round a loaf of bread if you were off sick for a month.

There was only one winner in the miners strike Mancie that was Scargill, he went into the strike with a big union and a little house and came out of it with a little Union and a great big house

jaysay · 22-03-2010, 15:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Mancie, you do not advance your argument by making cheap jibes.
I do have a brain, I can think, and it isn't hard work for me to think........I don't need to order a brain from a takeaway pizza place.

Before I retired I had a taxing and responsible job.
I would thank you not to insult me to try and win points.
I do not belittle you for your opinions, so please have the courtesy to offer me the same respectfor my opinions.
Oh and just by the way I have no political affilliation, which is why I will take a pin with me to the polling booth.

Take no notice of Mancie Margaret, nobody else does, just laugh

and pull your tongue out