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Old 27-10-2009, 19:12   #46
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Hello egg&chips,
Of course and well done for thinking on what I said before opening your mouth.
I would say this ( your mention of laws such as do not kill) shows the PROPER application of God's Laws brings blessings not curses.
I admit religious leaders can get things wrong that's why we need righteous laws to guide us. As a christian I know it provides a starting place or point to produce a better society.
Unfortunately no-one has yet come up with a way of creating a better society without laws or government. If you anyone can - then that would be news!
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"No-one has yet to come up etc. ..... " Of course they have ... if you take your head out of your bible for a while and do a little reading you will find this ...

"The liberty of man consists solely in this: that he obeys natural laws because he has himself recognized them as such, and not because they have been externally imposed upon him by any extrinsic will whatever, divine or human, collective or individual" Mikhail Bakunin.

And from the same source: "People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupify themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy."

Maybe you should read more.
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Old 27-10-2009, 19:53   #47
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Aren't a lot of our laws based on those anyway?(E.g. the killing and stealing stuff?)
Yes, of course Egg & Chips, but to bring yourself up-to-date with the way we have evolved, have to add laws like:

Thou shall not let your dog poop on public footfalls

Thou shall not abuse speed limits with thy chariots.

Thou shall not abuse the public purse with expenses afforded you by the public purse.

Sure, our members can think of many more ... the 10 commandments are just the basics of which would have been put in place by anyone without Moses's religious backing, which was just, probably, a caring man frustrated by his people's wrongdoings.

Alex ... I don't think you are any Max Clifford, and have not done Kevin Logan any favours here at all. Stop preaching/talking down to us and give us a solid manifesto of what he proposes to do to help this country, would have more respect for this.
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Old 27-10-2009, 22:24   #48
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Just as a note - we went up Snowden earlier this year and if you listen to the clips on the Snowden Mountain Railway website it says that from the top of Snowden you can see


The five kingdoms - Wales, England, Ireland the Isle of Man and the Kingdom of Heaven.


Now say all that with a welsh accent and it sounds so much more believable.
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Old 27-10-2009, 22:28   #49
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Those 'nyar nyar hymn singin methodies' have overrun the roof of the world
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Old 28-10-2009, 08:17   #50
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Those 'nyar nyar hymn singin methodies' have overrun the roof of the world
At least Ruth Madoc still has a bit or work coming in.

Hi-di-hi.

Ho-di-ho.

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Old 28-10-2009, 08:25   #51
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That's the trouble when people come on here to try and preach at us, be it religion, politics, conspiracy theories about end of the world, whatever....most of them aren't very good at preaching.

Rule number 1.
Get the attention of your congregation/audience, and keep them on your side.

If not we're highly unlikely still to be listening by the time you get to your actual message, and are more likely to be whizzing our hymn books at you, or tearing up the pews, to make sure we have enough wood to form a strong barricade, to prevent you from ever returning.

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Old 28-10-2009, 18:54   #52
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By the way, I've checked Hebrews 11 and can find no mention of Accrington Maybe the original post is a goof, a joke to get us all going. If it isn't, maybe it's just self-parody Maybe I should check out a concordance and see if I can find Accrington.

No mention of Kingston either .... unless "Kingston" is a short form of "Kingdom of Heaven" .... mmmm, it's a nice place we have going here, but not quite heavenly
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Old 28-10-2009, 19:25   #53
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1. Accrington is on God's heart (Hebrews 11) . I bear witness that Chriast is blessing Rio de Janeiros, Mumbae, Moscow, Macao, and Xiamen. If Christ can raise up these cities is it so difficult to raise up Accrington?
We are living in tents in Accrington when Christ wants to give us a city of His design.
Have you find Chriast (sic) yet though?

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Old 28-10-2009, 19:34   #54
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Have you find Chriast (sic) yet though?

Third tent on the left as you go towards the Coppice
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Old 28-10-2009, 19:43   #55
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Third tent on the left as you go towards the Coppice
From which direction?
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Old 28-10-2009, 19:50   #56
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From which direction?
Up Bold Street I think ... but my memory is going as fast as my sex drive
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Old 28-10-2009, 20:02   #57
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but my memory is going as fast as my sex drive
So you've finally reached puberty then?
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Old 28-10-2009, 20:31   #58
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Those 'nyar nyar hymn singin methodies' have overrun the roof of the world
Hope you were not having a dig at John and Charles. Wonderful hymn writers and all round good eggs.
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Old 28-10-2009, 20:38   #59
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So you've finally reached puberty then?
Getting there ...

Actually I'm hornier than a two peckered billy goat ... maybe christ can cure that. Well, once he's taken care of Accrington he might have time.
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Old 28-10-2009, 20:48   #60
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my question is ...why are people living in tents when there are 2200 empty houses ?


from another thread ..."Can I just say on the housing and swamping issue there are 2200 empties in Hyndburn. Schools in these areas have falling rolls and can't fill their intake like they once did. "
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