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Old 23-02-2010, 21:48   #91
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The reasonable request was for his name & address which he then refused to give, there is no law against that if you've not done anything wrong.
Clearly this is where the issue is because his definition of 'not doing anything wrong' and the police's (and the people who complained to the police) seems to be different. I wasn't there so can't comment, but I was there the week before and I was taking lots of pictures. Not once did I get stopped and questioned because I was clearly doing nothing wrong.

Now, the man in question may not have been doing anything wrong by his definition but clearly he aroused suspicion so must have been doing something for that to happen.

If he had simply given his name and address, the police would have checked him out and would probably have let him just carry on along on his way without any further issue. But, because he refused to give his name and address he then aroused more suspicion.
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Old 24-02-2010, 00:06   #92
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Sorry but if your taking pics behind your back, your taking them at bum level! If hed been taking pics of my kids with santa, (or of me) id also expect him to show some common courtesy and ask first. But only proper eye level pics! Like a normal person would take..
(I dont mean to imply he was actually taking dodgy pics - it was clearly just a - rather pointless - way to provoke a reaction)
If the police were being shirty, I could understand but they showed immeasurable restraint and politeness in the face of - a right plank. Well done to all three.
The video is wonderfully and unintentionally hilarious though, and for this I think we should all thank Bob for a cracking piece of comedy.
(nasal voice); "Are you detaining me officer!"
(even nasalier) ; "I do not consent to this arrest!"
I particularly liked; "There's no need for violence I am not resisting arrest!" to which the weary copper responded "well come on then".
Priceless.
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Old 24-02-2010, 01:09   #93
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id have loved to have seen him in northern ireland 15 years ago or longer .... saying that to a policeman over there would have seen a bit different of a reaction ...

can remember once flying over there ..gave you a questionnaire .. why you going, where you stopping, how long, name address .. usual details .. i wrote in the bit where it said where are you stopping .. i cant say .... big oops well i couldnt .. i was stopping with my cousins .. one of which was in the policeforce .. walking through security got pulled .. and ended up being questioned ... that was the holiday i found out a bottle of vodka and 2 little tins of coke and flying dont mix .... never drank alcohol on a flight again since!!!!
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Old 24-02-2010, 07:17   #94
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id have loved to have seen him in northern ireland 15 years ago or longer .... saying that to a policeman over there would have seen a bit different of a reaction ...

can remember once flying over there ..gave you a questionnaire .. why you going, where you stopping, how long, name address .. usual details .. i wrote in the bit where it said where are you stopping .. i cant say .... big oops well i couldnt .. i was stopping with my cousins .. one of which was in the policeforce .. walking through security got pulled .. and ended up being questioned ... that was the holiday i found out a bottle of vodka and 2 little tins of coke and flying dont mix .... never drank alcohol on a flight again since!!!!
You'd probably have been ok just with the Vodka.

Snorting the coke probably wasn't such a good idea.

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Old 24-02-2010, 08:35   #95
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No I won't argue that point with you, he probably went with the intention of getting a rise out of the Police, which he succeeded in doing, so he's made his point, whatever it's purpose was ?
That's all well an good Dave, but how much time did the police waste on this self righteous numpty, we are continually complaining that we can never find a policeman when we want one, is it any surprise when they are having to chase prats like this round, when they could be doing more important things
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Old 24-02-2010, 18:41   #96
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Sorry but if your taking pics behind your back, your taking them at bum level! If hed been taking pics of my kids with santa, (or of me) id also expect him to show some common courtesy and ask first. But only proper eye level pics! Like a normal person would take..
(I dont mean to imply he was actually taking dodgy pics - it was clearly just a - rather pointless - way to provoke a reaction)
If the police were being shirty, I could understand but they showed immeasurable restraint and politeness in the face of - a right plank. Well done to all three.
The video is wonderfully and unintentionally hilarious though, and for this I think we should all thank Bob for a cracking piece of comedy.
(nasal voice); "Are you detaining me officer!"
(even nasalier) ; "I do not consent to this arrest!"
I particularly liked; "There's no need for violence I am not resisting arrest!" to which the weary copper responded "well come on then".
Priceless.
Pamperqueen, please look at response 58 ref pictures, as to provoking a reaction how can it be "pointless" this thread ........... all about what ? As to your comment about it being hilarious & comedy, I really can't see that due to the fact that this episode shows the level of mistrust there is in the Country due to badly & in some cases wrongful enforcement of laws that have been brought in by the present Government to control & subjugate the population. 1984 ring any bells.
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Old 24-02-2010, 18:50   #97
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That's all well an good Dave, but how much time did the police waste on this self righteous numpty, we are continually complaining that we can never find a policeman when we want one, is it any surprise when they are having to chase prats like this round, when they could be doing more important things
Jays take a look at post 69, then ask yourself why the time was wasted, police dogma ? brought on by a plethora of unnecessary & unwanted rules & laws, even the police aren't sure how to apply the rules !

Photographers Rights And The Law In The UK - the law and photography

main points of ref People, Privacy, Children & Anti terrorism measures
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Old 24-02-2010, 18:55   #98
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Finally, shillelagh, I know exactly what you're talking about. 2 Pigs with Infantry squads aboard, escorting & assisting the R.U.C in their V8 turbo armoured Lannys. Find a player "Talk" to him then drop him outside his mates and "Thank you for your Cooperation".That was the more subdued approach, the other was the House searches on known Terrorists/Sympathisers, not pretty & not without pain.
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Old 24-02-2010, 19:15   #99
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In my opinion, the bloke was out to cause trouble. He was ready to video record his encounter with the police.

Everybody is quick to scream "police state" but this bloke could have averted a situation by simply telling them who he was and what he was doing when they first asked. By being self-righteous he has aroused their suspicions - without any reason - and prevented them from attending other incidents where their time might be better spent.
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Old 24-02-2010, 22:30   #100
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Thank you all for your interest in my case.

Please take note that I will be informing my solicitor about the 'deformation of character' that has been going on here in this thread and we will decide what action to take in due course. I have screen captured all of the content.

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Old 24-02-2010, 22:32   #101
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Old 24-02-2010, 22:40   #102
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Please take note that I will be informing my solicitor about the 'deformation of character' that has been going on here in this thread and we will decide what action to take in due course. I have screen captured all of the content.

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well at least it was screenshots and not photos
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Old 24-02-2010, 23:57   #103
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Thank you all for your interest in my case.

Please take note that I will be informing my solicitor about the 'deformation of character' that has been going on here in this thread and we will decide what action to take in due course. I have screen captured all of the content.

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Is this the end of freedom of speech ??..

Please feel free to introduce yourself Bob in the correct forum and tell us all about yourself ..
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Old 25-02-2010, 00:07   #104
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Thank you all for your interest in my case.

Please take note that I will be informing my solicitor about the 'deformation of character' that has been going on here in this thread and we will decide what action to take in due course. I have screen captured all of the content.

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See you in court.

You might also want to sue the wonderful world wide web, because all the information in this thread is freely available to the public there, on sites you're associated with.

There's been nothing defamatory. Only the vast majority of people expessing our opinions that you came to our town with an agenda, wasted our police officer's time, and are a prat.

Expressing an opinion isn't actually a criminal offence...at least not in our universe.

By the way, your snaps are naff. That's also a fact, so you haven't a leg to stand on there either.

Keep smiling, as you never know who's watching you, and ready to capture your image for posterity.

Say cheese.

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Old 25-02-2010, 00:16   #105
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'deformation of character'
Hopefully your soliciter will sit you down, and then quietly inform you that the term is defamation.

Your character was obviously deformed well before your visit to our town.
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