Where's my ambulance?

[Margaret Pilkington]

We have made a major thread wander here.......from where's the Ambulance to Care in the Community.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

We have made a major thread wander here.......from where's the Ambulance to Care in the Community.

In a roundabout way i dont reckon its much of a wander? I (my opinion only) think many of these attacks on Ambulance Staff are by people 3 slices short of a loaf.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

In what context?
Do you mean in the context of this thread or in general?
And where do you get the information that a high number are being dismissed as not in the public interest?

I meant in general,you may be right about the thread wander,Although cashman has a point

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[Margaret Pilkington]

Cashy, they may well be...but you and I remember the saying 'thur nod all daft that slavver' and I reckon that fits this quite well.
Most of those who abuse the rescue services are just plain ignorant morons rather than mentally deficient.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

I meant in general,you may be right about the thread wander,Although cashman has a point

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thank you for that information.....I haven't read it thoroughly...yet.
I am sure it will give me a bit more insight.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Approximate starting salary of £22,000 per year for a paramedic.I bet the average staff member at Asda, Tesco are on a similar wage, but they don't have the stress or daily abuse.
Which do you think sounds more appealing to today's youth?
Hope I'm wrong but I cant see a career as a paramedic ( bad hours and rubbish pay) appealing to future youth (law of averages says there will be a shortage).

Do you think paramedics should have the right to refuse help to abusive patients? Surely their duty of care is firstly to themselves?

Paramedics/NHS staff are at the front end of a barrage of physical and abusive threats.
They're professionals who when someone needs medical attention, put themselves out in the line of duty.
They should be respected not put in danger,They can do without being some reprobates/drug addicts target for the Night.

It's £21,783 to £27,901 for a paramedic and £25,783 to £34,530 for a senior paramedic and upto £40 for an area manager

No idea how they decide which point you are on in the pay scales though. I am not a big fan of that type of pay scale. If you're doing the same job as the person sat next to you then you should be on the same money is my usual thought on pay.

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Neil

It's £21,783 to £27,901 for a paramedic and £25,783 to £34,530 for a senior paramedic and upto £40 for an area manager

No idea how they decide which point you are on in the pay scales though. I am not a big fan of that type of pay scale. If you're doing the same job as the person sat next to you then you should be on the same money is my usual thought on pay.

Like other sections of the NHS pay is sectioned into bands. Paramedics start at band 5 and through the appraisal system you move up the band in increments.
To get to the next band you need to learn extra skills and/or gain extra qualifications.

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/paramedic_salary.htm

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by gpick24

Like other sections of the NHS pay is sectioned into bands. Paramedics start at band 5 and through the appraisal system you move up the band in increments.
To get to the next band you need to learn extra skills and/or gain extra qualifications.

Paramedic: Salary and conditions | Prospects.ac.uk

Nursing is very similar in pay structure.

[gpick24]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Nursing is very similar in pay structure.

My Mrs and daughter are both HCA`s, they are on a lowly band 2.

[gpick24]

The ward my daughter works on has a lot of dementia patients and the staff there are regularly hit, slapped or scratched by the patients. Don`t think there is any procedure in place to report this, would there be any point, 5 mins later they are nice as pie and don`t remember what they`ve done.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I can't comment on that G. My ward was gynaecology, and we had well defined procedures for incidents.....mind you I have been retired now for 11 years(but rarely are procedures and paperwork issues rescinded).