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Old 08-03-2010, 11:40   #1
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Will it make any difference

North West anti-terrorism hotline launched (From Lancashire Telegraph)
Will this make any difference or will it just escalate tension between the ethnic minorities. Already the Lancashire Council of Mosques has spoke out against it saying it will drive a wedge between communities, whats your take on the matter
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:44   #2
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Re: Will it make any difference

It is a good idea and I don't see where it will cause a rise in tension. Surely we all need to help in this effort to avoid future terrorist attacks.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:55   #3
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Difficult one to call, that. The police can't be everywhere so having a specialist hotline may help to root out more illegal activity.

The Council of Mosques has jumped straight on the defensive without Muslims being referred to at all, which in itself suggests that they know they need to get their own house in order.

On the other hand, this smacks of scaremongering again. I am not at all convinced that Great Britain is under constant high-risk threat from Islamic suicide bombers but schemes like this are (in my opinion) more likely to make it happen.

Plus, how much is this costing us?
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:40   #4
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Plus, how much is this costing us?

Calls from most land lines will be free,some mobile operators may charge for the service.
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Old 08-03-2010, 15:58   #5
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Difficult one to call, that. The police can't be everywhere so having a specialist hotline may help to root out more illegal activity.

The Council of Mosques has jumped straight on the defensive without Muslims being referred to at all, which in itself suggests that they know they need to get their own house in order.

On the other hand, this smacks of scaremongering again. I am not at all convinced that Great Britain is under constant high-risk threat from Islamic suicide bombers but schemes like this are (in my opinion) more likely to make it happen.

Plus, how much is this costing us?
I agree with you on the Muslim front, they do need to get their act together, as for terrorist threat I'm not so sure, they only tell us what they want us to know and as for cost, if it helps to save lives who cares
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Old 08-03-2010, 18:34   #6
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I wonder if this may have 'owt to do with the case being currently heard involving those two characters from Blackburn who were discharging firearms in their backyard and undertaking 'military training' in Corporation Park? A confidential phoneline - such as the one whose number used to be plastered all over the place in Northern Ireland, and proved an invaluable weapon in the fight against sectarian terrorism - would seem to be a good idea.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:09   #7
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To be honest I really don't see it bringing any advantage at all, how many times have they set up "Hotlines" for immediate response across the spectrum of criminality ? Vandals, Car thieves, Gangs of yobs, blah,blah,blah ad nausea & what has been the net gain ?

All people want is proper Coppers on the street, sensible ones at that who aren't afraid to use some common sense & not just follow rules & regs to meet quotas. As has been expressed on here on various threads, there is it appears very little faith for the Police representation as it stands, so I see this being another case of disillusionment to the general public.

I mean if they can't attend to a group of drunken gobby & offensive kids, how do they intend to deal with an organised, armed & explosive carrying Terrorist cell ? No, more empty promises I fear.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:53   #8
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caller - iv seen a suspicious fellow and i think hes a terrorist

operator - can you desribe him

caller - brown chap, black hair , funny little hat and wearing pajamas

operator- ok Mr Griffin this is the 1000th time you have called this week can you please give it a rest

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this idea is about as stupid as teh idea of putting microphones in lamposts because we all know terrorists choose to discuss terror plots in open spaces under a lampost.Terrorists dont tend to be open about what they are planning it kinda takes away the element of surprise so if anyone has this sort of information they are either involved or in a position where they shoudl ring teh police if they have any sense of right or wrong ,there is crime stoppers for anonnymous tip offs this line isnt needed its just a publicity reassurance stunt
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Old 08-03-2010, 20:04   #9
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have only 2 words to say ... northern ireland ...
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Old 08-03-2010, 20:12   #10
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caller - iv seen a suspicious fellow and i think hes a terrorist

operator - can you desribe him

caller - brown chap, black hair , funny little hat and wearing pajamas

operator- ok Mr Griffin this is the 1000th time you have called this week can you please give it a rest

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this idea is about as stupid as teh idea of putting microphones in lamposts because we all know terrorists choose to discuss terror plots in open spaces under a lampost.Terrorists dont tend to be open about what they are planning it kinda takes away the element of surprise so if anyone has this sort of information they are either involved or in a position where they shoudl ring teh police if they have any sense of right or wrong ,there is crime stoppers for anonnymous tip offs this line isnt needed its just a publicity reassurance stunt
But think of the evil dog owners they'd catch, who let their Dogs wazz on lamp posts !!

Owner: Hurry up Rex its bloody cold out here !

PC LP: We've got a name Sarge !

Sarge: What ? who ?

PC LP : Rex Sarge, he said Rex !!

Sarge: Right, On yer toes son, all the Rexs in ACCY rounded up & down the nick sharpish lad, we'll teach these Yobs a lesson & don't forget the bag of Dog toffee too, we can clear another case off the books with that.

forgive my cynicism, but real Coppers to deal with real crimes please.
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Old 08-03-2010, 20:22   #11
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have only 2 words to say ... northern ireland ...
Shill I can understand NI, I've mentioned previously about working with the R.U.C. as was, but the situation was completely different & it was a real threat that the people of Ireland were living with (and still are it seems), but there they had Coppers & assets that would deal straight away with a perceived threat, because they understood what was happening.

At least 80% of the guff that comes out of the Government in the UK is to cause fear & panic amongst the populace so they can add more laws & bills, people reporting their neighbours & people on the street(shades of Russia & Eastern Europe it seems) under the guise of security, but in reality it is control they are looking for, no where else in the Western World are the citizens under so much surveillance.

I think these points have been raised before (Deja vu).

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Old 08-03-2010, 21:01   #12
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But think of the evil dog owners they'd catch, who let their Dogs wazz on lamp posts !!

Owner: Hurry up Rex its bloody cold out here !

PC LP: We've got a name Sarge !

Sarge: What ? who ?

PC LP : Rex Sarge, he said Rex !!

Sarge: Right, On yer toes son, all the Rexs in ACCY rounded up & down the nick sharpish lad, we'll teach these Yobs a lesson & don't forget the bag of Dog toffee too, we can clear another case off the books with that.



forgive my cynicism, but real Coppers to deal with real crimes please.

lol for some reason you reminded me of an old joke .

2 dogs walking down the street and one says her do you use contraception to which the other dog replies " nah do you rex "
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Old 09-03-2010, 14:20   #13
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I find it strange that the Police and Security Services want the public to do their job for them.Strange but not surprising.

It doesn't take a genius to know what is going on,on the streets.It's plain to see.

It's time to bring back the local Mr Plod
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Old 09-03-2010, 15:31   #14
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It's time to bring back the local Mr Plod
but we have plastic cops on pushbikes what will we do with them ?

hmm

garden could do with a new gnome i suppose
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Old 09-03-2010, 18:14   #15
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but we have plastic cops on pushbikes what will we do with them ?

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garden could do with a new gnome i suppose
Recycle them
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