Bethel Chapel "walking" crusade

[Bob Dobson]

Originally Posted by susie123

Thanks Kate. You had your eyes open this time.

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Susie That was a patronising remark. Katex deserves better. At no time have I said that the 'church 'photos' were taken other than where you have surmised. I repeat that my doubts are concerned with - where was the 'walking' photo taken?.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

Susie That was a patronising remark. Katex deserves better. At no time have I said that the 'church 'photos' were taken other than where you have surmised. I repeat that my doubts are concerned with - where was the 'walking' photo taken?.

Patronising, moi? it was meant to be funny and I'm sure Kate realises that. Hence the smilies at the end comme ca

[Bob Dobson]

Sorry - I missed 'em.

[katex]

Originally Posted by susie123

Patronising, moi? it was meant to be funny and I'm sure Kate realises that. Hence the smilies at the end comme ca

No, didn't take as the slightest bit patronising, Sue, just berated myself for having my stupid head on. Thanks anyway, Bob, for what you thought was defending my honour... this went a long time ago

Hope someone comes up with a suitable 'photo of Church. Believe me, have googled in all sorts of languages .... expletives being at the top ... LOL.

One thing you said was about the tram lines .... wouldn't there have been tram lines on Blackburn Road at the top of Henry Street then ?

[steve2qec]

Lots of good photo's here....

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[susie123]

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson

I think that the location is Blackburn Rd, Church and that the Corporation sign COULD be linked to the public transport ,but also it could have been an office where people over that end of Acc could pay their rates and perhaps gas, water and electricity bills. I think that Church & Ossie folk got their gas etc from Accrington Boards, which were Corporation-owned.

Just a thought Bob, I wonder if a directory would give addresses for Accy Corporation offices, I know you have quoted from directories in past posts and wondered if you had any that went that far back. Or perhaps someone could pay a visit to the library?

[Karateman]

A photo of my mother and her friends outside the chapel and the chapel after the fire, with the sign renown tyre something ltd.


Can we re establish the facts for clarity...

The "walkers" definately come from "The Bethel Chapel" situated in Gatty Park, not the Ernest st or Pitt st " Bethels", and which was burnt down in 1943.

The time will be sometime in the early 30's. My mum looks in her early 20's which would be about 1932..34..ish. In the attached photo my mum and one of her friends outside the chapel, are definately both in the "walking" photo.

The road looks like it might be on a Bus Route and one of the buildings has links with Accy corporation.

If they are heading towards Accrington (as most processions used to do on Blackburn rd), then the buildings are on the LEFT hand side of the rd, not the Right as was suggested earlier that it may be opposite the top of Oxford st.

We need photos showing the Blackburn rd /Henry st area in the 30's

The buildings have a smooth stone facia as oppoesed to the more rough stone facia on most of Blackburn Rd.

The road has cobbles and no tram lines...when was Blackburn rd tarmac'd?

There is a sign in the shop window just above the girls head next to the lamp post. What does it say... B....... about 7 letters.

The shop windows are painted out...maybe offices....with a small sign on the centre the right hand window.

There is a door on the left next to the large window.

Any other info I have missed?

Phil

[Bob Dobson]

The whole of the tramways ceased to run in August 1931.The tracks would be taken up soon afterwards.
The wooden board on the bungalow is an advert for Coulson's, slaters. I remember it well.
IF the procession headed from the park towards Church, it would likely turn into Henry St, then left onto Blackburn Rd, so we may be looking at a block on the Church side of the Queen's hall/Tudor cinema. On that block in 1951 there was a bank, newsagent and (in the middle) a hardware dealer. How can we get some Churchites interested in this thread/photo. ?

[susie123]

Good summary Phil - where did you find the pic of the burnt chapel?

The shop could have blinds down as it was Sunday, rather than painted out windows.

Sign on the church - Renown Tyre & Rubber Co.

[steve2qec]

Could this be it?
http://lanternimages.lancashire.gov....94&r=2&t=4&x=1

[susie123]

Where is that Steve? Thought I'd been through all the Accy pics on Lancs Lantern

[Karateman]

Originally Posted by steve2qec

Could this be it?
http://lanternimages.lancashire.gov....94&r=2&t=4&x=1

That is very very close...could well be....in fact I would stake my li....er my wifes life on it..

Count the stones above the shop window to the gutter, the bus stop is there.... the drain pipe is there....the double doorway is there....the window above the shop is there.....the jutting out stone below the gutter is there......the raised stone work to the right of the drainpipe is there.....

seems pretty conclusive to me....so where is it, the corner of Henry st and Blackburn rd?

Phil

[susie123]

Originally Posted by susie123

Where is that Steve? Thought I'd been through all the Accy pics on Lancs Lantern

Cracked it! This is the same place... junction of Henry street and Blackburn road, Church. The shop in the walking pic is the one behind the lamp post on the lhs of the bank. See Steve's post for a closer view of the shop sadly boarded up.

So well done Bob for tying it down. The procession would have been coming down Henry street towards Blackburn road.

As an aside, I find the lantern site quite hard to find stuff on. A place search on Church did not bring up either Steve's or my picture. I had to do an advanced search on henry and Church to bring up Henry street, Church, and voila!

Steve how did you find your pic?

Anyway Phil I think we are there! The second pic below sums up my feelings!

[Atarah]

Originally Posted by Atarah

er, we are still discussing the photo of the group of "walkers" which I, and looks like Bob Dobson think is at Church, where you turn onto Henry Street?

Er! thats what I said all along?????? Posts 65 and 72

[Bob Dobson]

I am convinced that this is the spot. The procession has passed (or exited) Ernest St from the Commercial and is about to pass or enter Henry St. Brilliant work Karateman & Steve2qec All we need now is to go through the Observers for the decade and ascertain the date