Old Map of Accy - 1890(Wrong!) - Page 2

Tealeaf · 11-03-2004, 08:37

The West Accy map has the Queens Hotel on Church Lane (built 1903), the Railway Station has redeveloped around 1901 (I think), but best of all - what was the Church Conservative Club (now the shop selling push-bikes and motor car spares)......built 1923 (at least that's what the stone says)

East Accy....something in my head says the old baths were built in 1909 or 1911...was'nt their a plaque or something in the entrance giving the date? I dunno, I may be wrong.

I think the possibility we have 2 maps here is a very distinct one.

Owd Bert · 11-03-2004, 16:15

I mentioned about Accrington House in a previous posting on this thread. It was demolished in 1889 so even if the map was published in 1890 it was slightly inaccurate although there is nothing unusual in that. No doubt the Cartographers had not updated their software.

Tealeaf · 11-03-2004, 16:23

Accy East -The other interesting point is that pubs are indicated by PH on the map (although sometimes it my be hotel) The Bay Horse (I think) is to be found on Church Street, in front of the Church....according to Atarah, this was demolished in 1920; at the same time, we can see the site of The Lark Inn on Abbey Steet (previously mentioned in the photo's section) and it is the same on the map as it is today. The pub was closed in 1906 and there is no reference to PH on the map, suggesting at least that this is post 1906.

K.S.H · 12-03-2004, 06:25

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

suggesting at least that this is post 1906.

I have to agree as my house is on and it was built in 1908

Owd Bert · 12-03-2004, 20:01

Will probably get in trouble for not starting a new thread but seeing this has been about an old map thought it may be of interest to the dedicated few who have posted here.
I have two old local maps from this company which is at www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk

Owd Bert · 13-03-2004, 14:59

Accy East -- As KSH`s house is on and was built in 1908, and mine, which was built 1911 is not shown, seems we can pinpoint to within 3 years. The odd thing about this though is that Oswald St and others in the area are built on the site of Accrington House which as I mentioned earlier was demolished in 1889 ( Library Records). Feel sure Oswald St was built before 1908 but will check. Must sort this out I reckon.

ShortStuff · 14-03-2004, 15:41

How do you all know so much about when everything was built & demolished? I'm beginning to wonder about the ages of you Accy Webbers!!!

Owd Bert · 15-03-2004, 08:33

Well, as far as I am concerned, have long been interested in "Old Accy & District" and have spent hours in the Local Studies Dept at the Library. Arising out of this I think we can take it for granted that "Accrington House" was demolished in 1889 (Library Records) and that it was on the site of present day top-block of Oswald Street. That block or terrace was built in 1891 ( info from a friend who lives there). I am convinced that the East Section of the Map we have been discussing is dated correctly although I have misgivings about the West section. Will be researching one particular aspect of the West Section as soon as possible.

Tealeaf · 15-03-2004, 08:49

I'm convinced that the west section is indeed much later....certainly about 1923 (Because of Church Con Club being on the map)...however, the railway is marked Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway, a title which ended in 1923 with the railway amalgamation into the LMS railway.

Another interesting comparative point between the East & West sections of the map is that on the latter several council district wards are indicated as such, in quite a modern typeface which appears to have been overprinted on the map. I am not aware of the Ordnance Survey, in any of their map series, indicationg council ward boundaries. The East map has nothing like this.

I think this is a mess-up all round on the part of LCC archives dept. The map is not 1890's and in fact may be 2 distinct maps with different and later dates. It makes you wonder what else they may have got wrong. Anyway, someone needs to tell 'em.

Tealeaf · 15-03-2004, 09:39

There's some interesting maphs on this site:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb...._pages/lan.htm

Owd Bert · 15-03-2004, 09:53

Further to my earlier posting -- should have mentioned that there is a lot of info on this website, a lot coming from the previous poster and others -- with special mention of Atarah.
Can we perhaps compile a few specific points re-the West Section before contacting LCC ? I have one particular item in mind which I feel sure I can verify by tomorrow.

Tealeaf · 15-03-2004, 09:56

Fine by me Bert........I'm shy in contacting anyone, as you know.

mez · 15-03-2004, 10:36

wot you shy ///

Owd Bert · 16-03-2004, 15:14

Re West Map Section -- Verified what I had in mind, namely that Lang Bridge Works was built in the Exchange St area c1904. The firm was originally in Paradise St and they moved in 1905.

Tealeaf · 16-03-2004, 15:42

Good one Bert......did you notice the old Ewbank factory, close to the old Baths? I don't know when they moved on to Hyndburn Road.