warning for the filesharers ..

shillelagh · 28-11-2009, 04:41

according to this there will be about 15000 file sharers who will be getting letters through their door in the new year about 'illegal file sharing'

BBC News - Lawyers target thousands of 'illegal' file-sharers

Lolly · 28-11-2009, 13:47

It only mentions games and films. Does it apply to music as well i wonder??

Neil · 28-11-2009, 15:39

I am sure it will yes.

mattylad · 28-11-2009, 19:43

Hmm, methinks they would have to provide me with some proof and not just an IP address.

If its porn I was accused of then I'd want a copy to refresh my memory

Having a wireless router, which at the time of the accused offence was unrestricted I would not be able to say who it was that did the deed.

AccyLass · 28-11-2009, 20:18

You would obviously then have to share the copy of porn

accyman · 28-11-2009, 20:44

nothing to worry about it here its aklll hot air and puffing out tehir chests , unless they physically get the comuter off you and prove you have the files on your computer they cant do jack sh1t .

this issue came up on whatchdog where peopel were wrongly been accused by tehir providers of downloading illigal files etc andf teh top soliciotor they got on te job stated that they have to physically catch you with teh files on yur computer because anyone could have downloaded the files wether it been a family member or somone hacking into your wireless connection

basically these letters are sent out to scare people into stopping but in reality prosecuting you is very very unlikely infact if your provider starts to give you greif just switch to another one

cashman · 28-11-2009, 23:09

so being a numpty, whats a filesharer?

Mancie · 28-11-2009, 23:10

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Originally Posted by accyman

nothing to worry about it here its aklll hot air and puffing out tehir chests , unless they physically get the comuter off you and prove you have the files on your computer they cant do jack sh1t .

The new regulations are pretty draconian..
"including the "three-strikes" rule that allows your entire family to be cut off from the net if anyone who lives in your house is accused of copyright infringement, without proof or evidence or trial"
I not sure if the above statement is true but here is the article I got it from:

Britain's new Internet law -- as bad as everyone's been saying, and worse. Much, much worse. - Boing Boing

Mancie · 29-11-2009, 11:04

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Originally Posted by cashman

so being a numpty, whats a filesharer?

most common filesharing is downloading music,films or images and then passing them on to someone or uploading them to a website etc.

Restless · 29-11-2009, 12:00

hehe file sharer being the ones making the effort for files being available in the first place hehe

andrewb · 30-11-2009, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The new regulations are pretty draconian..
"including the "three-strikes" rule that allows your entire family to be cut off from the net if anyone who lives in your house is accused of copyright infringement, without proof or evidence or trial"
I not sure if the above statement is true but here is the article I got it from:

Britain's new Internet law -- as bad as everyone's been saying, and worse. Much, much worse. - Boing Boing

Unfortunately it is true, which is why I'm totally against it. Sharing material illegally should remain against the law, but somebody should be charged and put on trial if they are accused, not disconnected with no evidence.

In Hull we only have one internet provider. They started doing this here, just disconnecting people without warning or without providing evidence. They were forced to stop.. under this law they'd be allowed, forced.. to continue.

accyman · 02-12-2009, 10:37

it also depends on how much of a damn your provider gives about what you do on the internet, virgin i believe have tried to crack down on mainly torrent users and will threaten you with diconection but they do have a big self interest in stopping music piracey , BT simply slow your connection down at peak times if you download too much

most internet providers wont even look at your account unless somone reports to them that you are downloading things you shoudlnt and because with torrents you are opening your computer up to teh world it is very easy for them to see what you are doing once they connect to the same source as what you are and then contact your provider to complain

if you look in your torrent application it will show all the ip addresses of computers you are conected to sometimes with a countries flag next to it and one of them could be a govenment agency from anywhere in the world

peerguardian is a legal application that you run while using torrents to reduce the chances of conecting to govenment agency or suspect computers but its not %100 fool proof so if you must use open torrent sites you do so at your own risk and have no one to blame but yourself if you get catched lol

accyman · 02-12-2009, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The new regulations are pretty draconian..
"including the "three-strikes" rule that allows your entire family to be cut off from the net if anyone who lives in your house is accused of copyright infringement, without proof or evidence or trial"
I not sure if the above statement is true but here is the article I got it from:

Britain's new Internet law -- as bad as everyone's been saying, and worse. Much, much worse. - Boing Boing

with wireless internet dongles this law is pretty much impossible to enforce, i can get an o2 pay as you go pda sim card with free unlimited internet usage for a year and put it into a 3 pay as you go dongle for example and surf my heart out at very little cost

yes they may be able to stop somone getting a landline internet connection but they could not keep somone off teh internet for long because of all the methods there are of getting internet access these days especialy pay as you go dongles

Neil · 02-12-2009, 12:52

The other thing I find interesting is that quite a few people are using hacked modems that are almost untraceable. I say almost because they would have to trace you down to an area and then start disconnecting customers until the connection in question went down. Very time consuming so very expensive.
Also from my poor understanding of how it works they would assume it was the legal customer who was fire sharing first anyway so the wrong person could be accused.

As far as someone else using your WiFi, I am not sure if you would get away with that as an excuse.

accyman · 02-12-2009, 18:25

the ironic thing is that most of the cloned modems and chipped boxes for free virgin media comes from their employees making extra cash

their best sales pitch is buy a minimum package or reduce your already existing package and buy a second box of them that allows all channels even pay per view events for free

i know for a fact that when it was ntl an employee could reconnect the feed to a house if it had been doosonected and because it was listed as inactive teh person in that house didnt even need to be a ntl customer they could have internet and tv for free and virgin are running the same system they just took over and renamed the company

virgin media should look a little closer to home before punishing their customers lol

i dont know how they havnt solved this problem its been going on since the system was started and called cable and wireless then ntl and then virgin .

i dont find it reassuring at all that a vigin media employee can sell a list of mac addresses of active modems which coudl result in a pervert getting a cloned modem resulting in said pervert surfing and transfering kiddi porn annonymously on an innocent customers account