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Old 11-02-2007, 14:18   #16
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But the ex players know the little tricks that go on that ref's dont see.
An experienced referee will also know about those little tricks even if they don’t see them at the time. They will on other occasions. The point is that a referee or the assistant can only view an incident from one angle, their own and have to make a decision on that view, but TV cameras will see things from several different angles. However the solution would then be to have a panel of referees and players, with referees in the majority.
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Old 11-02-2007, 14:22   #17
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It's a game, not a political process.
I don't think any new dynamic actions should be brought in.
Like I said before there is no practical solution to diving. It'll just take time and developing experience.
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Old 11-02-2007, 14:27   #18
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Re: Diving Divas

Why can't the forth official watch the game from 2 different angle on a split screen monitor? We already know that they are in contact with the ref via an earpiece & mircophone, so they could inform the ref is they see something different. After an incident takes place, there is usually about 30-60 seconds of moaning, why can't this time be used to look at a replay?

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Old 11-02-2007, 14:29   #19
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So to me it sounds like you want to start americanising our beautiful game,shall we have the halves made into quarters to to raise a bit more revenue on advertisements.Just like what Sky have done 'Glazer' at my club and probably what 'Gillett' will do at Anfield.It will Kill off for good our game.
Now you are being facetious! Just where in all my comments have I stated anything at all about altering the game except in the decision making with regard to penalty area incidents?

In any case a match is already broken up into small sections with the ball going out of play for one reason or another many, many times during a match.

Next time that you go to a live match or see a full match on telly have a stopwatch with you. Start the watch every time that the ball is not in play and stop it when play resumes then re-start it at the next out of play. I know that throw ins, corners, free kicks etc are all part and parcel of a football match’s 90 minutes duration but it might surprise you to discover that on average the ball is out of play for 20 minutes during a 90 minutes match.
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Old 11-02-2007, 14:35   #20
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It's a game, not a political process.
I don't think any new dynamic actions should be brought in.
Like I said before there is no practical solution to diving. It'll just take time and developing experience.
Yes it is a game, a big, big money game and bad decisions can and do affect teams who are desperate for some extra revenue just to survive. A wrong decision could see them relegated.

You may consider that there is no practical solution to diving but others do not share your view. They are at least prepared to discuss the issue and not dismiss it out of hand.
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Now you are being facetious!
No sorry,I wasn't being facetious,just stating fact.Because of certain issues thats why I'm not watching premiership football anymore,well not 'paying' to go and watch it.I am happilly watching north west counties and next season whats looking like Unibond.There are no premadonnas in there..........Wonder how long it will be before the Anfield faithfull break ranks and do what we have at Old Trafford/Gigg lane?
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Old 11-02-2007, 14:47   #22
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Why can't the forth official watch the game from 2 different angle on a split screen monitor? We already know that they are in contact with the ref via an earpiece & mircophone, so they could inform the ref is they see something different. After an incident takes place, there is usually about 30-60 seconds of moaning, why can't this time be used to look at a replay?

Interesting suggestion but is it practical. Can a person view a split screen like you suggest and determine with any degree of accuracy what he saw?

I think that all that would do is break up the ‘flow’ of the game. But it is worth a shot in the absence of any other ideas.

I’m trying to find a way of keeping the game flowing and also punishing the cheats so that their cheating does not affect the outcome of the match.
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Interesting suggestion but is it practical. Can a person view a split screen like you suggest and determine with any degree of accuracy what he saw?

I think that all that would do is break up the ‘flow’ of the game. But it is worth a shot in the absence of any other ideas.

I’m trying to find a way of keeping the game flowing and also punishing the cheats so that their cheating does not affect the outcome of the match.
Not only that he's supposed to be keeping an eye on each of the teams benches,and making sure no manager or member of coaching staff are doing anything wrong.
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No sorry,I wasn't being facetious,just stating fact.Because of certain issues thats why I'm not watching premiership football anymore,well not 'paying' to go and watch it.I am happilly watching north west counties and next season whats looking like Unibond.There are no premadonnas in there..........Wonder how long it will be before the Anfield faithfull break ranks and do what we have at Old Trafford/Gigg lane?
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Maybe you should look up the meaning of facetious? Teasing, tongue in cheek, is how my dictionary describes it.
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I’m trying to find a way of keeping the game flowing and also punishing the cheats so that their cheating does not affect the outcome of the match.
If you were to punish the cheats by way of video evidence after the match, you could do as follows:

1st offence - 1 game ban.
2nd offence - 2 game ban.
3rd offence - 4 match ban.
4th offence - 8 match ban.

etc etc.

Each offence doubles from the previous one. I think a lot of managers would soon get fed up with the so called star strikers, if they were continually diving, & therefore missing a large part of the season.
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