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andyd 07-08-2020 17:43

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Latest developments at Charlton EFL reject takeover by the latest bidders leaving Charlton in a precarious position before the start of the season is league 1 again not going to have 24 clubs with both Wigan and Charlton without owners.

monkey hanger 08-08-2020 06:45

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[QUOTE=andyd;1242996]Latest developments at Charlton EFL reject takeover by the latest bidders leaving Charlton in a precarious position before the start of the season

at least the EFL have rejected somebody for a change. think having no owner at the moment is better than being owned by some shark or crook with the same thing happening to them again a few months down the line.

andyd 11-08-2020 18:27

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Macclesfield relegated after EFL,s appeal upheld but yet again the EFL shows how inept it is enforcing Macclesfield,s deduction of points this season and letting Sheffield Wednesday,s carry over to next season what inconsistencies and we wait for guidelines on the current rules for next season from this good for nothing organisation not fit for purpose.

MikeA 11-08-2020 18:34

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Poor Mac: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53744939

cashman 11-08-2020 18:49

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Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1243159)

shame Satanage have come out ok.

AccyMad 11-08-2020 19:31

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Feel sorry for Macclesfield - & yet again Stevenage come up smelling of roses, ah well at least we won't be playing 'em

Twenty Eight 11-08-2020 19:52

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243158)
Macclesfield relegated after EFL,s appeal upheld but yet again the EFL shows how inept it is enforcing Macclesfield,s deduction of points this season and letting Sheffield Wednesday,s carry over to next season what inconsistencies and we wait for guidelines on the current rules for next season from this good for nothing organisation not fit for purpose.

You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.

Exile on Spencer St 11-08-2020 20:40

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1243163)
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.

The issue seems not to be how the Appeal Panel works, but when.
I understood the SWFC case has been going on since November last year!

andyd 11-08-2020 20:44

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1243163)
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.

The reason for a lot of inconsistencies to me in football governance is the layers being involved and taking their fees out of the pot rules are to be followed should be straight forward and no need to be bent and twisted in the courts.

Chewbacca 11-08-2020 21:21

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243165)
The reason for a lot of inconsistencies to me in football governance is the layers being involved and taking their fees out of the pot rules are to be followed should be straight forward and no need to be bent and twisted in the courts.

What rules were not followed?

Why would you apply a points deducted for an historic offence on the previous season rather than the next one? When Spurs had point deducted it was applied to the next season.

There are no hard and fast FFP punishment rules so it is possible to show discretion.

NORTHERNSOUL 12-08-2020 00:27

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1243163)
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.

Non Payment of wages should be nothing to do with the EFL it just opens cans of worms where the only losers are the clubs fans.

Simple really if an employer fails to pay you on time as a player you with the assistance of your union take civil court action as would any other employee and the only way the FL would need to get involved would be if that action then resulted in games being postponed because the players had withdrawn their labour the penalties would then be imposed of the person [stated on the website as being in control] who ultimately decided not to pay the wages on time in the first place.

Things will not improve until the FL start acting in the intrests of the clubs [ and therefore their fans ] and not that of the owners and that can start by imposing personal financial penalties [ which i would then sell on at say 50% to factoring companies who would then use the meanest badass debt collectors to enforce them. The sight of a few Lamboughinis disappearing off a few football club owners driveways might start to focus a few owners minds just a bit.

NORTHERNSOUL 12-08-2020 00:53

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1243163)
You clearly do not understand how the Appeal Panels work and to compare this to SWFC’s case is baffling.

I think we all know how the appeals panels work.

Problem is they work one way for big clubs with history like Sheffield Wednesday and a completely different way for clubs like Macclefield town.

Cant you just see the ****stom that would kick off if SWFC were relegated a division let alone licked out of the league by it. Yet for Macclesfield it hardly warrents a mention.

And why dont we get to know who was on the pannel and how much they were paid to be and how many of them were the real people who matter in this the real fans.

monkey hanger 12-08-2020 07:18

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[QUOTE=NORTHERNSOUL;1243168]Non Payment of wages should be nothing to do with the EFL it just opens cans of worms where the only losers are the clubs fans.



Things will not improve until the FL start acting in the intrests of the clubs [ and therefore their fans ]

yes fans. the biggest group of people affected by all this stuff but are never thought about. its not as if a person who just rolls up every home game pays his admission fee for the club they prefer to watch can do anything about what happens behind the scenes. if you have any other business apart from football its the customers that usually come first. without these customers at the outset there would be no macclesfield, stevenage or pedigree dog food either.

monkey hanger 12-08-2020 07:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1243161)
shame Satanage have come out ok.

know that they have signed a number of players already. just wonder if these players are ones they consider to make em competitive in the national league or division 2 next season. could be an interesting season for them.

VALAIRIAN 12-08-2020 08:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1243161)
shame Satanage have come out ok.

Always thought they would mate........... feel sorry for Macc. Town..... :(

:) :) :)


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