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But isn't "fat, bald, "look at me I'm a chief steward it's on my jacket so I'm important" person" actually doing his job.
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We have so far been in a very lucky position were certain aspects of the FL regulations have been woolie round the edges and a blind eye has been turned but in truth how many times do people have to be told not to throw things onto the pitch what do they expect to happen if they get caught?? I do think that things will now change (for the worse in my opinion) at the crown no matter who was to blame for this inccident and I would not be supprised to see fans being searched even more stewards and police and overall a clamp down on anything regarded as bad behaviour or a breach of FL league rules. At the end of the day there is no chance of a statement from the club until such times as all the evidence is gathered, to comment before would be like shooting themselves in the foot. |
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Please, I started this thread because of my disgust in what went on on Wednesday night. All the “Whys and wherefores” are irrelevant at the moment.
IF Danny threw a “Missile” at a police officer – fair point, but what went on afterwards, was not right, others could have been hurt and as we all know – I hope – we do not cause trouble, we just have a good time. We stayed behind to congratulate our Team on a great display, but all the Officials seemed to want us out. I had planned to stay in Accy and have a few drinks – win, lose or draw – but after I witnessed what went on and Jase being cuffed, I just drove home, I posted this thread when I got home, because it was how I felt at the time. Two days later, I feel worse, love him or hate him, Jase is one of the main driving forces behind The Ultras and our FANtastic support, it will not be the same without him. But the reason for this post is to say, please do not let us fall out between ourselves… Emotions are running high, but remember, we are all the same – Stanley FANs!!!!!! TOGETHER WE ARE STANLEY FANS NOT CRIMINALS :) :) :) |
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I'm Amanda Jacks from the Football Supporters Federation (The Football Supporters' Federation - Informing, Supporting, Campaigning) and have read this thread with interest. Firstly, if anybody needs legal advice, we have an excellent solicitor to whom we refer supporters who've been arrested. Free advice is available over the phone. Secondly, if anybody would like to make complaints about the actions of the stewards (a headlock is not an approved restraint technique!) then please do email me at [email protected] Amanda |
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I am with you all the way, nowt went on, but some of the officials just wanted to ensure that their wages were justified :rolleyes: IMO :) As I was walking to my car on The Crown carpark, there were two young kids next to me - 8/10 years old - one of them had a small flag in his hand - rolled up - as he was walking near to the mounted Police, one of the horses reared up, the mount shouted/screamed to the flag holding boy "STOP WAVING THAT FLAG" He was holding a rolled up flag!! No control of the horse, so blame a 10 year old kid!!!!! Anyway enough, tomorrow sees us play the 2nd Team this week, that we have never played before, long may this dream continue :) |
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From my seat in the main stand i only witnessed the actions of the stewards towards the geordie fans. The guy who jumped over the wall to celebrate Newcastle's 2nd goal, although daft as a brush for doing it, was most definately mistreated by the stewards, one of whom had him headlocked as he dragged him away. I remember thinking at the time, that the actions of this steward could have caused a riot. In fairness the rest of the Geordie fans just gave him verbal abuse and didn't react against the stewards. Fair play to them for that. I hope that those involved at the Clayton End after the match, take the advice of Amanda's post and contact her. The over reaction of both stewards and police should not have to be tolerated. |
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your new on here and your clearly a steward you talk alot of crap no one was drunk 20 or 30 people where not running at the police, they where climbing over chairs, walking down steps, ducking under bars - you make it sound like a stampede no one ran at any stewards, the stewards decided to get involved on their own accord There is a difference between backing a blokes character and condoning illegal activity. There is also a commercial interest, as the club potentially could lose alot of fans from a young generation, this would also have a knock on effect on the teams performance as their is a direct link towards the boost the players recieve from the fans noise and the intimidation an away keeper/player feels playing in front of the clayton end. intimidation of away players and officials is a positive thing, it occurs at every football ground to varying degrees. Never get a penalty at old trafford, anfield or stoke? pleas dont link intimidation to throwing till rolls, again incase you didnt read it, the till rolls where designed to leave an effect in the goal nets with the rolls hanging down, as seen in many football grounds across europe. It looks impressive. Its convienent and 100% false for the police/stewards to link till roll throwing to an incient 40 minutes later, which the police and stewards instigated. one thing the new stewards have been unable to understand or accept, the ultras and the fans in general at accrington self govern and sort out any problems. This is a unique positive set up. Dont forget, stewards are their to act as police on the cheap, collect their minimum wage, do a fake NVQ and fulfil their egos. btw - i just like everyone else was searched by a line of stewards going into the ground. they are useless. pathetic. I would love to meet you. |
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DAV007, that has got to be the most sense that you have ever typed!!!! Respect :mosher: :)
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Stewards are being hammered on this thread, and for very good reason. Their behavioir the other night seemed to have approval from someone. The Police?, The club? who knows, but it wasn't acceptable by any standards.
By contrast, i went to Doncaster for the 1st round and was body searched on entering the ground there. The difference being, i was approached in a respectful manner by a steward with a smile on his face who made light of his task. His approach wasn't intimidating in the slightest and i willingly obliged. I entered the ground to find the rest of the stewards just as accomadating. The stance of the stewards on Wednesday night was most definately one of "we are up for a ruck" and was both intimidating and inflamatory. This is something the club must consider when they next employ external stewards. |
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