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VALAIRIAN 18-09-2018 21:41

Eric Whalley Stand
 
Nice and fitting touch - in my opinion :)


Eric Whalley Stand ? Accrington Stanley


:) :) :)

Lord Didsbury 18-09-2018 21:47

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I’d have called it the Aldershot Military Tattoo Stand.

Wynonie Harris 19-09-2018 07:45

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1217439)
I’d have called it the Aldershot Military Tattoo Stand.

So I take it your lordship doesn't think the new stand is a good idea?

Shurm 19-09-2018 08:24

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I always thought at the end of his reign he was willing to let the club go bust ? Ilyas bailed the club out I thought ? Maybe I'm wrong its a while ago now :rolleyes:

cashman 19-09-2018 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 1217449)
I always thought at the end of his reign he was willing to let the club go bust ? Ilyas bailed the club out I thought ? Maybe I'm wrong its a while ago now :rolleyes:

I was under that impression also.

sherry 19-09-2018 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 1217449)
I always thought at the end of his reign he was willing to let the club go bust ? Ilyas bailed the club out I thought ? Maybe I'm wrong its a while ago now :rolleyes:

I don't know about 'willing' but it was Ilyas who went to court and prevented the Winding Up Order by meeting the HMRC demand.

widnes viking 19-09-2018 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 1217449)
I always thought at the end of his reign he was willing to let the club go bust ? Ilyas bailed the club out I thought ? Maybe I'm wrong its a while ago now :rolleyes:

In which way was he "Willing" to do it - So a bloke that puts 100s of thousands in decides he is unable to put more in or feels enough is enough is unwilling?

Very very harsh

ferret man 19-09-2018 12:07

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Eric Whalley stand brill, after all the hard work time and money Eric put into the club well deserved. Another person should also have something around the club named after him is Bill Parkinson who did more to kick start the rebirth of the club than anyone. As for Ilyas bailing the club out what Ilyas did was for Ilyas not Accy Stan. A bit more than just my opinion.

Twenty Eight 19-09-2018 12:22

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So instead of the seats saying Stanley - they could have said Whalley ?
Same number of letters.
I cant see there being a sign above the stand for it to be named looking at the photos.

ferret man 19-09-2018 12:44

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Could change his name by deed poll, Eric Stanley Whalley

cashman 19-09-2018 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1217464)
So instead of the seats saying Stanley - they could have said Whalley ?
Same number of letters.
I cant see there being a sign above the stand for it to be named looking at the photos.

Would the roof not have to be on before a sign could be fixed?:confused:

Fourth official 19-09-2018 15:13

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I know that if the 1141 seat stand was full, there'd only be 600 in it, in Eric's world. He did play a bit part in the clubs recent history.

Shurm 19-09-2018 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by widnes viking (Post 1217460)
In which way was he "Willing" to do it - So a bloke that puts 100s of thousands in decides he is unable to put more in or feels enough is enough is unwilling?

Very very harsh


Hmmm yep if someone thinks enough is enough and doesn't want to help anymore I'd call that unwilling !! What would you call it ?

Sorry is it harsh or a FACT ?? I don't seem to have my rose tinted specs on today, all I seem to remember is the Club dying for a 2nd time nearly which would have been scandelous whilst people were trying to raise money to help.

Eric had numerous achievements with the Club and thats what the naming is for but in MY OPINION that was tarnished when the Club nearly died.

If I'd known what the stand was going to be called I wouldn't have paid a tenner for a brick I can assure you.

Chimer 19-09-2018 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1217461)
As for Ilyas bailing the club out what Ilyas did was for Ilyas not Accy Stan. A bit more than just my opinion.

Put up or shut up?

Lord Stiffupperlip 19-09-2018 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1217461)
As for Ilyas bailing the club out what Ilyas did was for Ilyas not Accy Stan. A bit more than just my opinion.

Nothing less than an insult to a man who saved Stanley when they stood at the edge of the abyss.
His last minute intervention - and hard cash, prevented a certain winding-up order & laid the foundation that enabled our recovery.

cashman 19-09-2018 19:39

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Agree entirely me Lord.There would NOT be a club now but for Ilyas Khan.

Mr T 21-09-2018 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1217500)
Agree entirely me Lord.There would NOT be a club now but for Ilyas Khan.

And Peter Marsden;

He was the "doer" in the background that kept EVERY body working in the right direction; plus he understands the footballing side of ASFC.

His decision to bring back Coley and Jimmy.

cashman 21-09-2018 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1217500)
Agree entirely me Lord.There would NOT be a club now but for Ilyas Khan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1217543)
And Peter Marsden;

He was the "doer" in the background that kept EVERY body working in the right direction; plus he understands the footballing side of ASFC.

His decision to bring back Coley and Jimmy.

Think most people are aware of what P.M. did for the club, which can never be underestimated, my comment was in response to a comment that to me was a gross insult to Ilyas,

VALAIRIAN 21-09-2018 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1217543)
And Peter Marsden; :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

He was the "doer" in the background that kept EVERY body working in the right direction; plus he understands the footballing side of ASFC.

His decision to bring back Coley and Jimmy.


Not wrong there mate!!! :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

ferret man 22-09-2018 10:11

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At the end of the day the bottom line is without ERIC there would not have been any of the others.

Chimer 22-09-2018 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1217570)
At the end of the day the bottom line is without ERIC there would not have been any of the others.

I don't think anyone would argue about that. :)

cashman 22-09-2018 10:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1217571)
I don't think anyone would argue about that. :)

True but its no excuse to decry Ilyas.:rolleyes:

Chimer 22-09-2018 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1217572)
True but its no excuse to decry Ilyas.:rolleyes:

Or that!! :):)

maccawozzagod 22-09-2018 17:12

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Educated opinion regarding the Ilyas 'slur' ... Ilyas didnt just throw his money into the pit like many of us did, or might have done. He put his money in via director loans to protect not only his money, but also protect the club from profiteers that may have surfaced had administration occurred.

ASFC was worth nothing. It was a failing business with only a meagre amount of assets. In theory it could have been sold by a third party to anyone who could pass the Fit and Proper test (think Morecambe). The mere fact that IK had hundreds of thousands of pounds held against the club wouldve prevented the fire sale - but his money was still at risk if the club just folded.

Im going to have to play dot to dot now as I had no insight or knowledge beyond the Save Accrington Stanley Committee. Along came Andy Holt with his purse and a willingness to save the club. I assume he had a small purchase price in mind based on the nominal value of the club. I imagine IK refused to budge from what he was owed? Perhaps this is why Ilyas was in it for Ilyas? I dont know if anything remains on the balance sheet in the form of cash or shares, or whether Andy just wanted a blank cheque style clear slate.

Regards Eric, once any rawness of opinion has gone the history books will tell you that he was the man who navigated us to unfathomable heights. Unfortunately the buuld it and they will come dream didnt come to pass. He had neglected the behind the scenes side to such an extent that only a big slab of money could rescue us from.

What muddies his waters was the involvement of Dave O'Neil. Quite what tbe truth was here may never be known but I dont think Ilyas' team of forensic accountants ever unravelled it entirely. I think that whatever was going on (and there are theories) WAS for the benefit of ASFC however unpalatable that might have been. This entire last paragraph is only opinion, conjecture and rumour though. Dozens of people have their own thoughts and an inner circle may know the truth, but as it is only 'make believe' then my opinion of him will weigh on the side of the history books. John Coleman isnt seen by everyone as the Man of the Year, but he's still the greatest manager this club has ever had - Eric deserves the same recognition.

Chimer 22-09-2018 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1217601)
Educated opinion regarding the Ilyas 'slur' ... Ilyas didnt just throw his money into the pit like many of us did, or might have done. He put his money in via director loans to protect not only his money, but also protect the club from profiteers that may have surfaced had administration occurred.

ASFC was worth nothing. It was a failing business with only a meagre amount of assets. In theory it could have been sold by a third party to anyone who could pass the Fit and Proper test (think Morecambe). The mere fact that IK had hundreds of thousands of pounds held against the club wouldve prevented the fire sale - but his money was still at risk if the club just folded.

Im going to have to play dot to dot now as I had no insight or knowledge beyond the Save Accrington Stanley Committee. Along came Andy Holt with his purse and a willingness to save the club. I assume he had a small purchase price in mind based on the nominal value of the club. I imagine IK refused to budge from what he was owed? Perhaps this is why Ilyas was in it for Ilyas? I dont know if anything remains on the balance sheet in the form of cash or shares, or whether Andy just wanted a blank cheque style clear slate.

Regards Eric, once any rawness of opinion has gone the history books will tell you that he was the man who navigated us to unfathomable heights. Unfortunately the buuld it and they will come dream didnt come to pass. He had neglected the behind the scenes side to such an extent that only a big slab of money could rescue us from.

What muddies his waters was the involvement of Dave O'Neil. Quite what tbe truth was here may never be known but I dont think Ilyas' team of forensic accountants ever unravelled it entirely. I think that whatever was going on (and there are theories) WAS for the benefit of ASFC however unpalatable that might have been. This entire last paragraph is only opinion, conjecture and rumour though. Dozens of people have their own thoughts and an inner circle may know the truth, but as it is only 'make believe' then my opinion of him will weigh on the side of the history books. John Coleman isnt seen by everyone as the Man of the Year, but he's still the greatest manager this club has ever had - Eric deserves the same recognition.

Come on Rob, your post is reasonable, balanced and well-argued, and where you aren't sure of your facts you're prepared to admit it. Something like that's not really suitable for publishing on AccyWeb, is it? ;)

maccawozzagod 22-09-2018 21:35

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There's always room for a first time n'est pas?

cashman 28-09-2018 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1217464)
So instead of the seats saying Stanley - they could have said Whalley ?
Same number of letters.
I cant see there being a sign above the stand for it to be named looking at the photos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1217469)
Would the roof not have to be on before a sign could be fixed?:confused:

There go, its being put on today, Yeh dont know it all :D:D:D

ferret man 28-09-2018 16:18

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It's on and looks good.

ferret man 28-09-2018 16:25

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Stanley fans can watch Tues nights game from the new Eric Whalley stand if they so wish.

cashman 28-09-2018 16:50

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Yep but i'm a Clayton Ender until i cant stand any more.:D

AccyMad 28-09-2018 16:52

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Think I might flit across to the new stand on Tuesday & if i like the view I might even put in for a transfer

mab 28-09-2018 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1217788)
Stanley fans can watch Tues nights game from the new Eric Whalley stand if they so wish.

Will it not have to be inspected and a safety certificate issued before it is used?

AccyMad 28-09-2018 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 1217796)
Will it not have to be inspected and a safety certificate issued before it is used?

Nah, take your hard hat & it'll be fine :D

cashman 28-09-2018 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mab (Post 1217796)
Will it not have to be inspected and a safety certificate issued before it is used?

Well it looks damn good to me.:D:D

mab 29-09-2018 00:31

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New stand to get Signed off this coming Monday!! :)

That's the plan; but it's the Chairman of the SAG that will make the decision!!

VALAIRIAN 02-10-2018 22:41

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Stand looked great tonight :)

Will look even better when it is full!!

:) :) :)

choirboy 05-10-2018 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1217949)
Stand looked great tonight :)

Will look even better when it is full!!

:) :) :)

What? ......
full of Braford City or Sunderland fans!:hidewall::eek:

cashman 05-10-2018 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1218052)
What? ......
full of Braford City or Sunderland fans!:hidewall::eek:

Who really cares? slong as its full?:)

choirboy 08-10-2018 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1218055)
Who really cares? slong as its full?:)

Good point Cashy for the income stream but could mean that the Clayton End gets outsung!:s_cry:

cashman 08-10-2018 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1218157)
Good point Cashy for the income stream but could mean that the Clayton End gets outsung!:s_cry:

That will take some doing i reckon, even wi the big clubs.;)

mab 08-10-2018 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1217949)
Stand looked great tonight :)

Will look even better when it is full!!

:) :) :)

Bradford City's Tickets allocation for Saturday’s game at Accrington Stanley are selling fast - with only terrace admission now available.

The Bantams were allocated close to 600 seated tickets, which have now sold out.

And less than 350 standing tickets remain available for purchase ahead of the Saturday October 13 contest (3.00pm).

VALAIRIAN 08-10-2018 19:11

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Thought they would bring more.....

:)

accybeme 10-10-2018 08:44

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Tried the new stand last night, one great improvement is the seats are elevated higher than the main stand, so smaller chaps can see over those taller fans sat in front of them,

cashman 10-10-2018 09:05

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We sat in it fer the match last night as 2 of our gang weren't 100% one a bit rough other bad jet lag, the view was great,in our opinions, a return to clayton end is imminent, but the new stand is a must, when we are fully knackered,:D


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