Dwindling Home Support?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Yeah ! But she keeps walking off when I get the matches !

Tie her to a steak

[Whalley Red]

Originally Posted by MikeA

What's wrong with burning at the stake?

'Tar and feather' was a more common punishment for con men

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Tie her to a steak

Sirloin or Rib-Eye?

[AccyAggro]

The thing is this i think.. the flags should not have been banned regardless of a few smoke bein set off at the newcastle game, it was up there with the biggest games the clubs ever played in theres obviously going to be a bit of exitment especially with the way our group is, people would definatly moan if the clayton end was dead for 90 minutes... on the other hand also agree with no fans are above the laws but with stanley bein a family club and club officials being friendly with fans there should be a bit of le-way as the players and managment definatly appreciate what we do.

Its unfair even though the club have offered to have them 'fire-proofed' that club funds should go towards stuff like this, ground improvments, training grounds maybe should be higher on the ajenda? I dont care what people at the club saying its LCC's fault to have them fire proofed cause Macca has proved that this is not the case and its simply mick shultz spittin his dummy out cause a few rules were broken... its a joke!

[nige b]

going back to the newcastle game so a 'pyro' was set off (lets face it it was hardly the millenium celebrations) i find it disgusting that the club (for it is they) have banned flags,banners etc from the clayton end when surely a quiet word in the ears of various individuals would suffice and we could all continue in our support of Stanley.
I don't quite understand the motives of the club (and it is very easy to get involved in conspiracy theories)in their actions when flags, banners and the ultras per se were what stood us apart from every other lower league club and lets be honest every other club.
i find it incredibly galling to see a clayton end without flags, it's like being neutered.

We are Accy Stanley

Iwould love to know the real reasons (without conspiricies) cos it isn't half as much fun anymore

And it makes me very sad

We all know the economics and we all know we are punching above our weight but what we always had was FANTASTIC FANS,FLAGS,BANNERS and NOISE

What are they trying to do (sorry for the rant, a bit peed off)

[cashman]

Originally Posted by nige b

going back to the newcastle game so a 'pyro' was set off (lets face it it was hardly the millenium celebrations) i find it disgusting that the club (for it is they) have banned flags,banners etc from the clayton end when surely a quiet word in the ears of various individuals would suffice and we could all continue in our support of Stanley.
I don't quite understand the motives of the club (and it is very easy to get involved in conspiracy theories)in their actions when flags, banners and the ultras per se were what stood us apart from every other lower league club and lets be honest every other club.
i find it incredibly galling to see a clayton end without flags, it's like being neutered.

We are Accy Stanley

Iwould love to know the real reasons (without conspiricies) cos it isn't half as much fun anymore

And it makes me very sad

We all know the economics and we all know we are punching above our weight but what we always had was FANTASTIC FANS,FLAGS,BANNERS and NOISE

What are they trying to do (sorry for the rant, a bit peed off)

Good post Nige, most are a lot peed off.

[maccawozzagod]

i reckon it'd take em a good few games to ban confetti ....

[Exile on Spencer St]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

i reckon it'd take em a good few games to ban confetti ....

And even longer for some poor sod to have to pick it all up afterwards.

[Stanleymad]

Originally Posted by AccyAggro

The thing is this i think.. the flags should not have been banned regardless of a few smoke bein set off at the newcastle game, it was up there with the biggest games the clubs ever played in theres obviously going to be a bit of exitment especially with the way our group is, people would definatly moan if the clayton end was dead for 90 minutes... on the other hand also agree with no fans are above the laws but with stanley bein a family club and club officials being friendly with fans there should be a bit of le-way as the players and managment definatly appreciate what we do.

Its unfair even though the club have offered to have them 'fire-proofed' that club funds should go towards stuff like this, ground improvments, training grounds maybe should be higher on the ajenda? I dont care what people at the club saying its LCC's fault to have them fire proofed cause Macca has proved that this is not the case and its simply mick shultz spittin his dummy out cause a few rules were broken... its a joke!

Think if thats the case u want to see the full report done of the meetings that took place with the LCC, fire & police authorities!! Im sure a copy can be sourced for you to read at a meeting arranged, then you might find that our safety officers hands were tied as he has given leeway before. If there was NO smoke bombs [previously complained about] then u may of got away with it - that was the issue with fire service that flammables were brought in obvious for all to see on the telly

I can see both sides before im shot, and mearely pointing that out.

So whats the Solution then ?

[Exile on Spencer St]

Originally Posted by Stanleymad

So whats the Solution then ?

Points well made.
But if the risk of fire is so great, why haven't the stewards being instructed to (try and) relieve fans of their lighters and matches?

If the risk is from flares, smoke pellets, or fireworks specifically, could not the 'competent person' at Stanley (I know, I know) tell everyone else how many 'flare -free' games need to occur before the daft ban on flags and banners can be lifted?
Under the Regulatory Reform (Fire safety) Order 2005, risk assessments for footie grounds should be reviewed periodically. If the risk is no longer in evidence, is there a need to continue a ban on something unrelated to the risk?
As many people have said, flares could just as easily set clothes alight so, if the risk has not gone away, will the Clayton End become restricted to naturists?

But, if the Club do lift the ban, the fan's / Ultras' side of the deal is that they persuade anyone attempting to let off another flare / smoke pellet / firework of the error of his/her ways, before it happens.

Growing up's never easy.

[katei77]

As one of them who put the hrs in for newcastle game flags/displays smoke was a huge NO NO!we didnt put in all that effort in for it to be ruined!

whatever the reasons the powers that be are making the fans and players suffer now due to having no flags/banners

re the newcastle game n complaints not ONE complaint was sent into myself or linda so we were unable to work with club and the FSF......maybe if we had be able to do this a flag ban may of not be put in place who knows??

Its no good sitting on here moaning about it you might as well be at the pub chatting with your mates for what effect it has to the powers that be,we had a great chance to work with the club and an offical body ie FSF but this chance was wasted due to no one putting a complaint in!

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

that was only for witches ...

And heretics

[fc:stanley]

THE MYSTERY OF THE NON EXISTENT FLARE

When will it turn out next - Keep Watching Everyone

[VALAIRIAN]

Come on lads... You are all on line, give us some views/thought......

[Willie Miller]

If the club don't want our style of support then we, the Ultras, are screwed... because the "authorities" up & down the country certainly don't want it.

I can honestly see the whole Curva lose its appeal to the youngsters & nobody at the club has the vision to try & keep what we have....