Gills match thread - Page 3

Crown Grounder · 16-01-2021, 16:36

Well if Hull were watching....they won't be expecting too much on Tuesday. Butchers injury a real problem..thats the worst thing that's happened today....did anybody else see an elbow?

cashman · 16-01-2021, 16:42

thought i did but drysdale didnt want too.

AccyMad · 16-01-2021, 16:55

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Originally Posted by Crown Grounder

Well if Hull were watching....they won't be expecting too much on Tuesday. Butchers injury a real problem..thats the worst thing that's happened today....did anybody else see an elbow?

On the other hand if they watched us last Friday & again today, they'll be as flummoxed as the rest of us & won't know what to expect - lulling them into a false sense of security

Hope Matt Butcher is ok, we really missed him after his injury - didn't see how it was inflicted & neither apparently did Mr. Drysdale

Watchdog · 16-01-2021, 16:59

Evans has put teams out playing a physical game (and sometimes cheating) throughout his career and we were poor in adapting our game to counteract his tactics.

yonmon · 16-01-2021, 17:02

Referee Drysdale is poor.. we all know that, and once again he lived up to his reputation, even turning up in semi-disguise with shaven head and full beard !.

But this does not detract from the lack of drive, cohesion, craft, and even basic football skills which was clearly there to see throughout the team this afternoon.
A trend which if not quickly and surely reversed might well see a return to mid-table anonymity!.

The Gills performance was exactly as expected and did little to add to a dreary and uninteresting game. But isn’t this what Steve Evans believes to be the way to present football to the masses ?.

Hull City looms large , and much more will be needed from all picked to play against them. Hope it appears !.

( If you think my post is somewhat grumpy then blame it all on Lockdown lethargy ! )... ON STANLEY ! ON TO GREATER THINGS !!.

Twenty Eight · 16-01-2021, 18:36

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Giveover the ref didn't make us lackluster nor did he make us lump aimless passes upfront, our midfield was poor today Russell might as well not have come on for Butcher Pritchard unusually quiet, think Coley dropped one putting Sykes at wing back showed by switching him second half.Ok the ref probably got the penalty wrong but today we were beaten by the better side on the day. We even playing so poor had some chances which is a positive when you're having a bad day but we managed to squirm those very tough game away at Hull Tuesday.

On the money Andy.
Ref didn't lose us this we were poor and at times bullied.
Getting fed up of our forwards whinging and moaning throwing the hands up.
Sooner see you hand a bit out.

andyd · 16-01-2021, 18:57

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On the money Andy.
Ref didn't lose us this we were poor and at times bullied.
Getting fed up of our forwards whinging and moaning throwing the hands up.
Sooner see you hand a bit out.

The forwards and midfield looked like strangers at times like I said earlier we just didn't click today, one forced substitute then one more after 80 minutes would have thought has apart from a ten minute spell at beginning of second half we were pretty second best surely the time for change but I ain't the boss, hopefully a better performance Tuesday many changes I wouldn't think so unless a new face or two sign on.

Lord Stiffupperlip · 16-01-2021, 19:00

Well that'll teach us!

They do say that pride comes before a fall.
Was this the same Stanley that embarrassed Charlton at the Valley & beat the Gills on their own midden?
Or was it back to the 'Jekyll & Hyde' Stanley of old?
Ruthless & efficient at dispatching victims with ease when out on the prowl, reverting to a hapless walkover back home once the serum has worn off.
Let's hope Mr Hyde returns to stalk the KCOM stadium next Tuesday.

monkey hanger · 17-01-2021, 08:25

yesterday was just a train of events that cost stanley. butcher going off injured, the ross no foul that eventually led to their winner, hitting the bar when the free header should have been on target then the push on hughes when he was going for the header. even with drysdales willingness to penalise stanley at every opportunity and his nelsons eye approach to them another day we,d have won. for a good number of years now stanley seem to save their best performances away from the wham and when there is anything that goes wrong it always seems to be at the wham.

monkey hanger · 17-01-2021, 08:30

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One game doesn’t define a season.[/QUOTE]

it shouldn,t but its not always the case. think over the years there has been a game where we won after an average season when the side then kicks on. the opposite can happen too. might be just a co incidence but it happens.

monkey hanger · 17-01-2021, 08:39

[QUOTE=yonmon;1249231]Referee Drysdale is poor.. we all know that, and once again he lived up to his reputation, even turning up in semi-disguise with shaven head and full beard !.

its not just stanley fans that think this. he is dreaded at doncaster for a start when they get him with a regularity of similar performances as we got yesterday. i know myself you can only give what you see but the law of averages should say you,ll miss things for both sides. that certainly was not the case yesterday. if coley does say something about him thats totally true then we will no the outcome. a big fine from the FA. about time refs are more accountable and not being allowed to hide behind their employers as much.

Crown Grounder · 17-01-2021, 08:44

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it shouldn,t but its not always the case. think over the years there has been a game where we won after an average season when the side then kicks on. the opposite can happen too. might be just a co incidence but it happens.

Maybe Monkey, if you believe in those sorts of "happenings". But I don't. I think Coley put his finger on it during his interview. He was at fault yesterday and not as he said for getting the players up for the game. First of all he experimented with the player choice to accomodate what he see's as our best players.....playing some out of position.......the midfield was all over the shop during the game......something definately wrong there.......and I can't put my finger on it..........Plus of course Evans got the tactics right, pressing us high and making the defenders go long most of the time to our forwards by-passing the midfield......against the Gills we probably needed another grafting midfielder alongside Seamus to help break up play, win the ball back and play the simple balls forward to our creative midfielders......Just some thoughts.....

StanleyJosh · 17-01-2021, 09:05

John Doolan was very vocal during the first half in attempting to get Seamus on the ball more to break up play and create the link in the passage between defence and attack.
I was surprised at how high up the pitch he was playing for large parts of the first half considering Sean and Johnny Russell are much more attacking midfielders.
As has been previously mentioned, we are trying it seems to fit our best 11 players into a system that may not suit them.
McConville in particular has struggled in the CM roll. A switch with him and Pritchard is a possibility. I think Coley made the right decision swapping Sykes and Nottingham after the first half, but we were just too sluggish throughout the pitch.
Game of small margins though and I hope this is a sign that we are a good team that even when we played below par, we still had chances. Seamus’s strike from my position didn’t look like it missed by much, Colby and Notts both had free headers.
Hopefully Butchers noggin isn’t too badly broke and he is back in contention ASAP.

StanleyJosh · 17-01-2021, 09:08

Scrap the Seamus strike part - just seen the highlights, miles off haha!

andyd · 17-01-2021, 09:14

Don't forget as well Charles really should have scored in the 6th minute had that gone in different game has Stanley's heads would have been up, but Butcher was a big miss to me Coley made a couple of mistakes ( he isn't infallible ) Sykes should have started in the back 3, should in my opinion brought Uwakawe on and moved Pritchard inside Russell hasn't had a decent performance for a while, would it have made a difference who knows positive,s had we took the chances playing badly we would have won, referee irrelevant same for both sides, Conneelly even though it's his job as Captain spent far too much time talking to him concentration should be on the game even so he was one of our better players yesterday.