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DAV007 · 13-02-2015, 15:23

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It's not Southport's fault that somebody who can't get in Accy's team decides he's too big for the Conference. If he wants to be that stupid, best off without him.

Sums it up perfectly for me.

AsFc62 · 13-02-2015, 15:24

regardless of whats gone! Both Gray & Carver have been sent out on loan (or tried to be sent haha) because they dont cut it at League Level.

This isnt to say they are good enough period they are both very young players, plying their trade in a lower league, getting vital playing experience will help them both develop. If Gray is too stubborn to see that he isnt quite good enough, yet! then more the fool him

football19 · 13-02-2015, 15:58

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Originally Posted by AsFc62

regardless of whats gone! Both Gray & Carver have been sent out on loan (or tried to be sent haha) because they dont cut it at League Level.

This isnt to say they are good enough period they are both very young players, plying their trade in a lower league, getting vital playing experience will help them both develop. If Gray is too stubborn to see that he isnt quite good enough, yet! then more the fool him

For a young lad you don't half talk some sense !!,it would have benefited all concerned

cashman · 13-02-2015, 16:22

Has Carver had a decent run to see if he cuts it? NO. But if it suits some to kiss Colemans ass so be it.

DAV007 · 13-02-2015, 16:53

he didnt under beattie.

2 managers who dont think he is good enough to start in league 2, but what do they know!
Its probably why man united, barcelona and bayern munich came into sign him, not as if he has ended up in the conference north playing at Barrow.

cashman · 13-02-2015, 17:00

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Originally Posted by DAV007

he didnt under beattie.

2 managers who dont think he is good enough to start in league 2, but what do they know!
Its probably why man united, barcelona and bayern munich came into sign him, not as if he has ended up in the conference north playing at Barrow.

J.B. gave him the contract cos hes useless? or cos he saw potential? there was every reason to give him a run instead of the midfielder, but yer too biased to admit that simple fact,

FrankMoody · 13-02-2015, 18:33

Really harsh criticism on here for the two young lads.

What exactly has Gray done wrong? Hes decided he didnt want to go to a particular club at this particular time which is his perogative.The people that deserve criticism in this event are the two clubs who publicised the deal without anything being signed.

As for only having 'himself to blame' as one of The Coalman's sycophants has stated, blame for what??

Gray is obviously not The Coalman's cup of tea, thats football and happens all the time in football. The issue here is that it's obviously more than that. The Coalman has gone on record to say Gray is a good lad and probably our best chance of scoring, so why has he consistently ignored him when we've needed a goal or our front men were struggling.

This thread had once again turned into a vehicle for The Coalman's storm troopers to spread the bile and castigate anyone who disagrees with his mantra.

Blind faith and hatred will consume you guys let it go. JB ain't coming back dont worry, The Coalman will reign forever!!! B

football19 · 13-02-2015, 19:19

Once again our debate turns into love/loathe Coleman,when it should be about how a young player can progress in his career.
For me it was an ideal opportunity to go out on loan,score goals,get rave revues, build his confidence and make a statement.
Harry Kane wasn't in the picture at Spurs and following numerous loans,he built up his experience and look at him now.
Football is about opinions but it's only the managers that counts and I am sure he's only interested in what's best for Accy.

cashman · 13-02-2015, 19:27

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Originally Posted by cashman

J.B. gave him the contract cos hes useless? or cos he saw potential? there was every reason to give him a run instead of the midfielder, but yer too biased to admit that simple fact,

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Originally Posted by football19

Once again our debate turns into love/loathe Coleman,when it should be about how a young player can progress in his career.
For me it was an ideal opportunity to go out on loan,score goals,get rave revues, build his confidence and make a statement.
Harry Kane wasn't in the picture at Spurs and following numerous loans,he built up his experience and look at him now.
Football is about opinions but it's only the managers that counts and I am sure he's only interested in what's best for Accy.

As far as i'm concerned this is about right or wrong,simple as, Yer as bad as Davo fer being biased football19.

FrankMoody · 13-02-2015, 19:34

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Originally Posted by football19

For me it was an ideal opportunity to go out on loan,score goals,get rave revues, build his confidence and make a statement.

How do you know anything about the deal, whether the lad was going to play, what position, finances etc? Answer: you don't!

Dav1d · 13-02-2015, 19:35

I agree would of been a good opportunity for him to go out her confidence back! Score goals and learn more of being a player in lower league but something has gone on for him to turn it down wether he wanted to go or was more pushed out! I hope he does work the way into the side and scores!

DAV007 · 13-02-2015, 19:57

If you agree to turn up at a training session and afterwards tell the Southport manager you have changed your mind, then there is only 1 person to blame.

DAV007 · 13-02-2015, 20:05

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Originally Posted by cashman

As far as i'm concerned this is about right or wrong,simple as, Yer as bad as Davo fer being biased football19.

Cashman is cracking up.
Anyone who shows an ounce of support or agreement with the manager is called biased!

Your argument does not hinge on beattie giving him a run in the team because he didn't,
it does not hinge on the lad being wanted by other football or conference clubs because he isn't,
It's does not hinge on his game changing ability when he has come on as so far despite his excellent attitude and workrate he hasn't shown a lot,
It hinges upon beattie offering the lad a contract the same time beattie was handing out contracts like confetti.

If someone gets a contract they must be good!

FrankMoody · 13-02-2015, 20:05

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Originally Posted by DAV007

If you agree to turn up at a training session and afterwards tell the Southport manager you have changed your mind, then there is only 1 person to blame.

So you're not allowed to meet in person?

Telephone only? Carrier pidgeon? Cans with string?

Let it go sad man

fc:stanley · 13-02-2015, 20:07

Hope the lad breaks into the side and bags even more this season! Fair play to come out and to say he wants to fight his way back into the starting 11 at stanley! Good luck to him!