January transfer window. - Page 16

smudgie · 31-01-2019, 16:58

Well said Exile !

Twenty Eight · 31-01-2019, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

Good luck to Piero but, for Stanley, what a waste of a proven talent to have had him sitting on his backside for most of the season, and now no longer available if suspensions/injuries occur.
We all know Piero would never get picked before McConville but one thing that appears to be different this season is how less effective has been Jordan Clark. Before various interested parties rush to criticise, I rate Clark as probably Stanley’s best player, but this season, whether it’s a slight dip in his form or closer attention from opponents, he hasn’t appeared to have had as much impact as he did last year. Maybe i’m wrong and some stat-freak can prove it. But, when Piero re-signed, I assumed it was because either Clark would be leaving this month or that they’d be used as a pair, one coming one as a sub if goals were not forthcoming from the other. I’m very surprised that there do not appear to have been any offers for Clark this month, but wonder if that actually does confirm my impression.
Anyway, seems sad that Stanley can’t accommodate at the same time two of the best attacking players they’ve had.

I don’t agree with your sentiments regarding Clark.
As for him moving on he is under contract.
The club value him highly (financially) and clearly at a level to detract other clubs and it has worked.
Same for Callum Johnson.
Oliver Holt - one of the few journos I actually respect - described him as the best player on the pitch against Derby.
The club has a one year option at the end of the season and I can’t think of any scenario where that won’t be exercised.
Piero hardly played last season.
He was injured when he rejoined the club.
When he did get on the pitch he was average.
Who knows the reason for his leaving but I genuinely could not make a case for him starting.
Think about Clark’s work rate and his defensive abilities not just his attacking ability.

Exile on Spencer St · 31-01-2019, 19:50

I don’t know why

but I kinda knew my post above would prompt a response from 28 implying something I didn’t write.
Read what I wrote; it’s not just the club that value him. The reason I thought he might leave is because he’s such a good player.
But i’d be delighted if you could show with evidence that this season Clark has been as effective in terms of goals and assists as he was last year. Does anyone have such info?

Twenty Eight · 31-01-2019, 20:26

8 goals 7 assists last season 3 goals three assists this season.
Still a way to go.
Every player at Stanley’s stats are down ........ but we’re in League One against better opposition !

Exile on Spencer St · 31-01-2019, 21:04

THANKS, 28, here's hoping he can surpass last season's terrific effort.

Simpson · 31-01-2019, 21:10

28 and Exile, I think your both agreeing that Clark is one of our better players, indeed I was struck on how well he moved with the ball at times v Derby on a difficult pitch.
As a retired stato who keeps a hand in for my own interest and grey matter all stats are down. Clearly if we haven’t scored in 5 league games then assists aren’t going to be credited even if your giving it to forwards on a plate.
Clearly the 1 year option will be triggered, the bigger question is will he sign the extended deal that has been on the table ?
Clark has been a strong servant and I’m sure 28 will guide him as any representative would in a similar position. Our focus needs to be on getting a few wins and not getting sucked in.

Lord Stiffupperlip · 31-01-2019, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

8 goals 7 assists last season 3 goals three assists this season.
Every player at Stanley’s stats are down ........ but we’re in League One against better opposition !

Think your last sentence highlights the crux of the problem for Stanley.
The history of football abounds with examples of 'second season' syndrome.
Take Huddersfield as an example. Promoted to the big time, they survived last season on adrenaline.
This season, largely with the same squad, they can barely scrape a draw.
We're trying to compete against better teams with league 2 standard players, albeit good ones.
We started well, but I think we've already been rumbled by those more established league 1 sides, not to mention those who were previously Championship level.
I'm sure we'll all be happy if we manage to survive our first season in league 1, but I fear for our long term future unless we can add some better quality players to our squad.

Twenty Eight · 31-01-2019, 21:22

I don’t represent him mate.
That’s a job for his Agent.
Extended deal ?
What deal ?
If you mean the one never formally made many months ago that was rumoured then clearly that won’t happen.
I think in time when fans look back they will say he’s one of the best free transfers in the clubs history.

Twenty Eight · 31-01-2019, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip

Think your last sentence highlights the crux of the problem for Stanley.
The history of football abounds with examples of 'second season' syndrome.
Take Huddersfield as an example. Promoted to the big time, they survived last season on adrenaline.
This season, largely with the same squad, they can barely scrape a draw.
We're trying to compete against better teams with league 2 standard players, albeit good ones.
We started well, but I think we've already been rumbled by those more established league 1 sides, not to mention those who were previously Championship level.
I'm sure we'll all be happy if we manage to survive our first season in league 1, but I fear for our long term future unless we can add some better quality players to our squad.

You’re right Lord.
Ive always says finishing sixth from bottom this season would be nothing short of amazing and I’m absolutely confident League One it will be next season.
However then come the big decisions.
Invest in the playing staff or continue as usual.
That will determine much.

Simpson · 31-01-2019, 21:35

28, cant disagree with any of that.
As for agency, you’ve made that point before and I believe you. I was making the point that your clearly close to him in how you “fight his corner” (rarely needed) and from the leads you tease us all with , clearly have a connection to the industry. On that basis whether you formally rep or not, you have his ear so to speak.
For what it’s worth I think he’ll go in September for a good price.

football19 · 01-02-2019, 12:07

Not seen as much of Clarke as I would have liked,but never seen him have a bad game!!!
Is it me or does he remind you of a young Jimmy Ryan !!!,great energy coupled with good technique.
Hope he gets a pop at a higher level

Spartacus2nd · 01-02-2019, 15:17

Clark is far and away the best player we've evrr had. His ball control is not surpassed in this league. I do think though, that we have a problem defensively down the right side as his forays forward leave Johnson wide open to the counter by all the opposition that Clark leaves on their backsides