Marcus Carver, then..... - Page 4

Chubbyman · 08-02-2015, 16:41

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Originally Posted by DAV007

I'm not blaming beattie, I was making a fact based point.

Stop looking for division, we need to stay united

Fact we have lost two games due to the errors of Conneeley !!!

Chubbyman · 08-02-2015, 16:46

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Originally Posted by football19

That's my point Cashy,head up and square it.
It's one of the first academy principles,look,take a picture and make the right decision.
Going back to young carver,I understand why we are still running with McGuire,he is a forward (not point tho),he scored 14 from 29 starts for Waterford (which got him noticed by west ham),so it's in his locker.
He's a under 21 international so the potential is there,he's just not brought it to the table for us.
I don't know why,sometimes it just doesn't happen,but a couple of goals/wins may change that.
Saying that he was out of sorts again yesterday when he came on and made some poor decisions (not the only one !!! )

So on those points Gray should be playing,top goal scorer under 21 international and far more experience than McGuire

Redash · 08-02-2015, 17:23

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Originally Posted by Chubbyman

So on those points Gray should be playing,top goal scorer under 21 international and far more experience than McGuire

But with serious issues with his balance

football19 · 08-02-2015, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Chubbyman

So on those points Gray should be playing,top goal scorer under 21 international and far more experience than McGuire

Different players,grey couldn't play behind the front man.
I like Grey,and he's technically as good as gornell,but he goes to ground too easily,which usually causes us to turn over possession.
If he changes his style a little,he would be a far better player.
He's very good in the air,which sometimes goes un-noticed

cashman · 08-02-2015, 17:41

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Originally Posted by football19

Different players,grey couldn't play behind the front man.
I like Grey,and he's technically as good as gornell,but he goes to ground too easily,which usually causes us to turn over possession.
If he changes his style a little

Everyone i know can see that fact my friend, its the fact hes a young lad, but WHY oh WHY has it NOT been coached out of him? whilst we know some players are a bit thick, Stay on yer feet, a clown could understand i'm sure.

football19 · 08-02-2015, 17:47

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Originally Posted by cashman

Everyone i know can see that fact my friend, its the fact hes a young lad, but WHY oh WHY has it NOT been coached out of him? whilst we know some players are a bit thick, Stay on yer feet, a clown could understand i'm sure.

Your far more diplomatic than me Cashy

Reamer · 08-02-2015, 18:01

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Originally Posted by DAV007

He didn't get a chance under beattie either.

Mainly because he isn't good enough on the limited evidence so far.

Further proven by the lack of league or conference clubs who have come in for him

Let's put the record straight here Dav0 without distortion of the facts. Beattie did give young Carver a chance cos it was him that awarded the lad his present 12 month contract last summer. So a former prem and England striker felt he should stick with him, whilst the former non league striker now in charge virtually ignored him and in fact brought in loanees who then played out of position up front.
As for Carver showing nothing, I seem to remember it was his performance that got us through the tie with Notts County only to be dropped for the next game v Cambridge to make way for Crooks

yerself · 08-02-2015, 18:26

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Originally Posted by Reamer

Beattie did give young Carver a chance cos it was him that awarded the lad his present 12 month contract last summer.

But was James Beattie in posession of his UEFA coaching badges at the time? This could be why the football genius doesn't rate young Carver, because he has the badges and knows best.

Reamer · 08-02-2015, 18:37

You seem to have the football genius sussed, Yerself, but I couldn't possibly comment

mab · 08-02-2015, 23:22

Although Marcus has gone out on loan with Barrow,Marcus is still training with stanley has Barrow are part timers.So Marcus still has time to impress and force his way back into JC's plans

well lets hope so anyway.....

cashman · 09-02-2015, 07:16

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Originally Posted by mab

Although Marcus has gone out on loan with Barrow,Marcus is still training with stanley has Barrow are part timers.So Marcus still has time to impress and force his way back into JC's plans

well lets hope so anyway.....

In my opinion Marcus has more chance of being struck by lightening.

smudgie · 09-02-2015, 08:17

You are in dreamland Mab unfortunately.

Exile on Spencer St · 09-02-2015, 10:08

[QUOTE=mab;1132641....Marcus still has time to impress and force his way back into JC's plans

well lets hope so anyway.....[/QUOTE]

How can that happen, Mab, when there a specific 'no-recall' clause in Mr.Carver's loan to Barrow to the end of this season?
I can only hope Marcus wanted the move because, along with Mr.Hatfield, I otherwise think he's been treated somewhat shabbily.
Good luck to both of them, except when they up against Stanley!

cashman · 09-02-2015, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

How can that happen, Mab, when there a specific 'no-recall' clause in Mr.Carver's loan to Barrow to the end of this season?
I can only hope Marcus wanted the move because, along with Mr.Hatfield, I otherwise think he's been treated somewhat shabbily.
Good luck to both of them, except when they up against Stanley!

Well neither were born on the Mersey.

StanleyAccrington · 09-02-2015, 11:40

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Originally Posted by cashman

Well neither were born on the Mersey.

Nor have they played for Sligo!