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Old 07-04-2009, 18:17   #61
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There is nothing currently 'sub-judice' whatsoever. The FA has no legal standing as a Court of Law and as such we are free to say what we like, within the usual boundaries. That situation, will of course, change should the police and subsequently the CPS decide to bring charges before a court. Only then could sub-judice be deemed to apply.
The matter is still sub-judice as far as the disciplinary process, to which ASFC as an FA member club, must adhere. Basic employment law requires of any employer that it does not pre-judge the outcome of a disciplinary processs, no matter how damning the prima facie case may be.
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Old 07-04-2009, 18:22   #62
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How stupid do you have to be to get caught...
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Old 07-04-2009, 18:34   #63
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Get all of them out, well at least the ones that are still here.
If found guilty all the players concerned should be banned from playing professional football for the remainder of their playing careers.
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Old 07-04-2009, 18:51   #64
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Just listened to Eric Whalleys interview on look northwest ..

BBC SPORT | Football | League Two | Five charged with betting on game
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Old 07-04-2009, 19:03   #65
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I would normally agree with you on this but haven't the club set a precedent by not suspending Dunsavin and Grant when they were accused of nightclub thuggery? You can't really have one law for one and one law for another.
This is totally different, one is shutting up a big mouthed manc the other is cheating, their team mates, their club and most of all their fans. I haven't checked but could this result have influenced promotion, play offs or relegation, are we likely to be sued if any are found guilty?
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Old 07-04-2009, 19:13   #66
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Sued on what basis? The only game they have been charged on is the bury game and they won! So why would bury sue?
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Old 07-04-2009, 19:16   #67
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i think the point is whether the outcome of the Bury match meant that another team was denied promotion or relegated, thus opening the floodgates for a Sheff Utd type lawsuit - albeit not for £30m!
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Old 07-04-2009, 19:37   #68
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How stupid do you have to be to get caught...
Just look where they all come from.
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Old 07-04-2009, 19:58   #69
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yeh am aware of that jeff, but the football ban was fer life, later reduced i think. can't remember the club being penalised?
I saw one of Tony Kay's "come back" games for Northern All Stars v Skem. He came from Attercliffe area of Sheffield ie local to Don Valley stadium

When his ban was finally lifted he was a shadow of his former self as a player.

Bronco Layne and Swan returned to Wednesday and Swan played about 20 games for Wednesday after the ban was lifted. Swan then went to Bury scoring his first Football League goal on his debut.
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Old 07-04-2009, 20:00   #70
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i think the point is whether the outcome of the Bury match meant that another team was denied promotion or relegated, thus opening the floodgates for a Sheff Utd type lawsuit - albeit not for £30m!
That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Old 07-04-2009, 20:21   #71
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Next years ground sponsors are going to ladbrokes
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Old 07-04-2009, 20:27   #72
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well look at games this year just ONE BRADFORD CITY LOL
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Old 07-04-2009, 20:35   #73
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How stupid do you have to be to get caught...
True but of course a lot of them get their mates to place the bets when fixing matches, are the fans entitled to their money and travelling expenses back?
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Old 07-04-2009, 20:48   #75
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I am absolutely gutted by this. Players from my team, betting against my team. The FA would not have released the names if they was any doubt of their guilt ( they would leave themselves open to all sorts of legal isues). I’m not bothered if it was £5 £50 or £500,000, the point is, they gambled on my team losing.
Now I think back how often has this betting against Stanley, by Stanley players, been going on.
Cavanagh is often romping forward and leaving the defence vulnerable on the counter attack, like last Saturday against Lincoln Phil had to move out to the right to cover for Cavanagh, leaving a massive hole in the centre for the Lincoln players to exploit. How many times has this happened? As the club captain he should set and lead by example. (I’m not saying the Lincoln match was dodgy, I’m just citing an example that will be fresh in the minds of others)
Williams and Harris, how many needless penalties, free kicks, and sending offs have they been involved with.
Was Mannix useless on purpose? Did Mangan keep running to the wing so he wouldn’t be in a scoring position?
I hope the FA ban them all from football stadiums for life. Never to play, never to manage and never to watch.
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