Sports Hub! - Page 10

monkey hanger · 18-08-2017, 08:42

as i do not live in accrington the issue does not affect me. the main issue is that people do not like or want change anywhere. there is always objections to every development that comes out nowadays that may or maynot help the communities that exist. people in favour usually do not get involved either. as for dog owners i bring mine to games when its cooler and find plenty of places to walk for 45 mins or so without touching the playing fields.

Shurm · 18-08-2017, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Neil

I will be surprised if the field isn't fenced off. It doesn't make sense not to fence it or they can't protect their investment. Would you as the football league invest £2 million on an uprotected site?

If its not fenced off they can build it tomorrow for me

I was thinking that the top bit is only being used as it is now could still be left unfenced ? That would please everyone I think ??

Chewbacca · 18-08-2017, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Neil

It can't be used for housing, that would be against the conditions in the councils deed for the land. That was explained at the wednesday night meeting.

Some think it was gifted to the people as it sounds good but it isn't true, the truth is in the deeds.

Rough deed details are the land was bought by the then Accrington now Hyndburn Council for just under £900 and it has to be for public recreation use.

It's the public bit that's up for legal discussion.

Land use can change at any time. look at the GMSF with most of the allocations for housing in greenbelt (former).

Who else is party to the land charge? Someone tells you something at a meeting, well that must be the case forever...

The deed can be changed if the relevant parties who signed it want it to. It is pretty basic stuff.

NORTHERNSOUL · 19-08-2017, 04:51

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Originally Posted by Neil

I will be surprised if the field isn't fenced off. It doesn't make sense not to fence it or they can't protect their investment. Would you as the football league invest £2 million on an uprotected site?

Do you not understand the meaning of the word "whole" ?

NORTHERNSOUL · 19-08-2017, 05:00

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Land use can change at any time. look at the GMSF with most of the allocations for housing in greenbelt (former).

Who else is party to the land charge? Someone tells you something at a meeting, well that must be the case forever...

The deed can be changed if the relevant parties who signed it want it to. It is pretty basic stuff.

People who think they know better should perhaps read up on whats happening in Greater Manchester re The Spacial Framework but basically it means that the need for land for housing overrides any other considerations and if a piece of land is deemed as needed but is protected by such things as ancient deeds then legislation will be enacted to overcome the problem so maybe the Nimbys should be more careful what they wish for.

NORTHERNSOUL · 19-08-2017, 05:07

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Originally Posted by KiTChener

Great posts, Macca, a very fair, unbiased report of the meeting.

As one of the NIMBYs, after listening to what was being said by our illustrious 'Council Leader', I have decided to 'move on', as advised by some other poster on here, who appears to live nowhere near Hyndburn! Moving on, not because of his advice, but because I am still of the opinion that I raised at the beginning of the meeting, that this issue has been 'cut & dried' for some time, (nothing that was said last night has made me re-think this opinion) & it is now counter-productive to oppose the proposal. As I have said previously, I am not against ASCT, but, I'm afraid that I just can't help being a NIMBY!

If Cuadrilla was applying to commence fracking on Highams', despite seeing the benefits of fracking for the country as a whole, I would still be a NIMBY!

Finally, I wish Malcolm & his newly formed committee all the best in which I feel is now a fruitless campaign.

If you're referring to me i can assure you i am both a resident and council tax payer of Hyndburn.

maccawozzagod · 26-09-2017, 17:12

So boys and girls, the plans are out!

REVEALED: New Sports Hub Plans | Accrington Stanley Community Trust

maccawozzagod · 26-09-2017, 17:18

Most of you know I'm a Supporter of this project, and I appreciate that some of you arent. Surely this shows that most of the 'concerns' are poppycock?

There's a page on Facebook that you may have seen SAVE Highams Playing Fields, Ive spent half the afternoon debunking the lies and myths that they post on there - only to have the thread deleted because opinion was swinging in favour and their concerns had been netted down to nothing more than 'not in my back yard'

Media Censorship at its finest.

Here's the screenshot of admin reasoning for the deletion

AccyMad · 26-09-2017, 17:56

Thought it'd gone quiet on there, the Trust's plans look amazing - hopefully their meeting next week will be more positive than the one organised a while back by Mr. Pritchard

Shurm · 26-09-2017, 19:20

Nothing new in the plans apart from not showing the fence which will surround it.
It says healthy trees will remain but others will be cut down so I think the people of Accy know what that means

cashman · 26-09-2017, 20:52

I think most of the people of accy, are aware what a self serving prat "Pritchard" is also.

chevyfire · 26-09-2017, 21:12

To be honest, I walk past the playing fields quite alot and mainly all you see is dogs exercising on the field(which can be done on the coppice,peel park area (a few hundred meters away). As long as they keep the play park which they are going to the plan is surely a vast improvement for are town and area.

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AccyMad · 27-09-2017, 10:25

I've just posted a comment on the Save Highams' page on facebook, just pointing out to some who are going on about kids not being able to play freely up there if the hub is built that when mine were younger they struggled to do that anyway because of the amount of dog muck on there.
I'll probably get some flack for it but doesn't make it any less true.

Shurm · 27-09-2017, 11:24

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Originally Posted by cashman

I think most of the people of accy, are aware what a self serving prat "Pritchard" is also.

To be honest Cashman he went up in my estimations outside the Town Hall the other night when people were having a protest before the Council meeting. He greeted all the arriving Councillors and some were quite rude to him saying shame on him for not towing the Party line and not voting for the Hub. When I asked him why they were being so rude to him he replied that he was trying to help the residents of his Ward rather than the Labour Party. You had to be there to see some of the so called people that represent this Borough it was shameful.

Like I've said all along its a done deal the investment is good for the Town just think there has always been better locations for it but I'm always going to say that as I will live directly opposite the site. So I'm a NIMBY

cashman · 27-09-2017, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Shurm

To be honest Cashman he went up in my estimations outside the Town Hall the other night when people were having a protest before the Council meeting. He greeted all the arriving Councillors and some were quite rude to him saying shame on him for not towing the Party line and not voting for the Hub. When I asked him why they were being so rude to him he replied that he was trying to help the residents of his Ward rather than the Labour Party. You had to be there to see some of the so called people that represent this Borough it was shameful.

Like I've said all along its a done deal the investment is good for the Town just think there has always been better locations for it but I'm always going to say that as I will live directly opposite the site. So I'm a NIMBY

Labour,UKIP. Independant, says it all about that piece of crap, he changes party to what happens to suit at the time, i wasn't even aware he was back with Labour? he switches that often, in fact i will be amazed if they accepted him back.