MP expenses - Our Greg's - Page 3

jaysay · 19-05-2009, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Why would they do that? It would totally destroy the "scoop" element of exposing them a few at a time. As Margaret says, that's what sells newspapers. Personally, I think you're being far too generous by saying it's just "a few", but I'm just a cynical old sod!

Got to agree Wynonie, its now getting monotonous, I don't bother listening now just turn the telly down and keep reading the paper

entwisi · 07-06-2009, 10:24

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

I would bet that there will be no extortionate bill for "moat clearing" amongst the receipts too!

does > 500 quid for some abstract painting not sound equally frivilous then?
Also, it appears that Greg wilst promising to publish within a week was exposed by a national paper. not only that the receipt was non letterheaded, i.e. hand written........

So Greg, in your quote in the Observor you stated that you realised it was a mistake. so why when on this thread did you not mention to having made such. Instead it appears whilst there was no public scandal you were happy to keep it under your hat.

so much for open and honest..............

derekgas · 07-06-2009, 10:54

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Originally Posted by entwisi

so much for open and honest..............

Ah! That old chestnut!

Barrie Yates · 07-06-2009, 20:20

If MPs make so many "mistakes" when claiming their expenses, how many "mistakes" are they admitting to having made during this Government's tenure?

garinda · 07-06-2009, 22:46

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

If MPs make so many "mistakes" when claiming their expenses, how many "mistakes" are they admitting to having made during this Government's tenure?

'Mmmmm, perhaps that cut glass decanter from John Lewis was a bit naff, and I really shouldn't have put in on expenses.'

'Mmmmm, perhaps we were misinformed about the weapons of mass destruction, and shouldn't have invaded Iraq, and entered a war costing billions of pound, and causing so much blood shed.'

'Hey ho, it's only other people's money and lives, and we'll probably never be held accountable.'

garinda · 08-06-2009, 17:56

Has never voted on a transparent Parliament.

Voted very strongly for the Iraq war.

Greg Pope MP, Hyndburn (TheyWorkForYou.com)

Mancie · 08-06-2009, 18:19

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Originally Posted by garinda

Has never voted on a transparent Parliament.

Voted very strongly for the Iraq war.

Greg Pope MP, Hyndburn (TheyWorkForYou.com)

you won't find many MP's that voted for a transparent Parliment, and the war on Iraq was passed by a massive majority....checked out your link Garinda and looks to me like Greg's voting pattern is in line with the party he represents.

garinda · 08-06-2009, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Mancie

you won't find many MP's that voted for a transparent Parliment

I know, I've mentioned it many times, also that the majority of them have blocked any attempt at bringing about a more transparent parliament, especially when it comes to their expenses.

Odd that.

cmonstanley · 08-06-2009, 21:01

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Originally Posted by garinda

Has never voted on a transparent Parliament.

Voted very strongly for the Iraq war.

Greg Pope MP, Hyndburn (TheyWorkForYou.com)

brilliant link i can use that info...

on other mps up here..ohh im going to have some fun..

jaysay · 09-06-2009, 09:19

Just wonder how this will affect Gregs standing locally, not much being said about that angle

den the menace · 09-06-2009, 20:51

just think, your local mp could be coming to a job centre near you!!!

Neil · 09-06-2009, 20:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Just wonder how this will affect Gregs standing locally, not much being said about that angle

It does not affect his standing with me at all. If it was within the rules then it is ok with me. If the rules need changing then change them.

If he has broken the rules or made fraudulent claims then I want him out and in court if fraudulent.

Has he broken the rules or made a fraudulent claim?

garinda · 10-06-2009, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Neil

It does not affect his standing with me at all. If it was within the rules then it is ok with me. If the rules need changing then change them.

If he has broken the rules or made fraudulent claims then I want him out and in court if fraudulent.

Has he broken the rules or made a fraudulent claim?

I agree.

Though not breaking rules you know to be flawed, to say the least, and not attempting to change them, does remind me of the lame excuses many Germans came up with post 1945, after following the rules of the democratically elected Nazi Party.

'Ve vere only following de orders'.

Neil · 10-06-2009, 06:39

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Originally Posted by garinda

I agree.

Though not breaking rules you know to be flawed, to say the least, and not attempting to change them, does remind me of the lame excuses many Germans came up with post 1945, after following the rules of the democratically elected Nazi Party.

'Ve vere only following de orders'.

Are the rules flawed or were they made like that intentionally to supplement MP's pay to try and cover up how much money MP's get?

Read Me

garinda · 10-06-2009, 07:11

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Originally Posted by Neil

Are the rules flawed or were they made like that intentionally to supplement MP's pay to try and cover up how much money MP's get?

Read Me

Either way, that makes them flawed, at least by my rule book.

...and let's not forget the expenses system was put in place by MPs themselves, who then repeatedly blocked attempts to make the whole system more transparent.