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Old 04-11-2009, 20:20   #16
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This is absolutely outrageous.....who the hell is this oufit anyway? Do they have any retail outlets here in London? Tell me where....

Eric , if you're reading this, then you will know that the Poppy appeal originated from the Canadian John McCrae's poem:

In Flanders fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below...
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields...
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields...

McCrae is buried in Wimereaux cemetary, outside Boulougne, a few graves down from a great uncle of mine (1st Irish Guards)...this is making me very, very, mad.

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Old 04-11-2009, 20:24   #17
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Although they have backed down I cannot understand why they would ban it in the first place.

For me the poppy is a sign of gratitude for all those immaterial of colour or creed that laid down their lives for others like me and you, in order that we may live a free and long existence without tyranny and fear from oppression.

What I dislike about this is that the person who made this decision is probably a decendant of someone that was saved by one of those that gave their life in the great war.

Wear your poppy with pride and support the British Legion
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Old 04-11-2009, 20:31   #18
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This is absolutely outrageous.....who the hell is this oufit anyway? Do they have any retail outlets here in London? Tell me where....

Eric , if you're reading this, then you will know that the origin of the Poppy appeal originated from the Canadian John McCrae's poem:

In Flanders fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below...
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields...
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields...

McCrae is buried in Wimereau cemetary, outside Boulougne, a few graves down from a great uncle of mine (1st Irish Guards)...this is making me very, very, mad.
All Canadians are familiar with the poem ... it is printed on the back of the Canadian $10.00 bill ...

I'm really po'd at this too ... One of my earliest memories is of my granddad Ashton coughing himself to death in '48, finally losing his last battle against the whiff of gas he got in '17.
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Old 04-11-2009, 20:46   #19
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All Canadians are familiar with the poem ... it is printed on the back of the Canadian $10.00 bill ...

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I didn't know that...still, I suppose that now we're fully signed up with the Lisbon Treaty, we'll probably end up with quotes from Rousseau or Hitler stuck on the back of our Fiver. Did you know that Britannia is being ditched from the back of our coinage from next year? It's pathetic.....we're going down the swanee, and fast.
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Old 04-11-2009, 21:55   #20
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I didn't know that...still, I suppose that now we're fully signed up with the Lisbon Treaty, we'll probably end up with quotes from Rousseau or Hitler stuck on the back of our Fiver. Did you know that Britannia is being ditched from the back of our coinage from next year? It's pathetic.....we're going down the swanee, and fast.
No more Britannia! What are they going to replace it with? How about a gallic rooster, maybe a pic of Angela Merkel stomping a poppy on the front Might as well sign up with the Euro.

I know it's a little off topic, (but considering the poppy is a symbol for those who gave everything for British freedom and independence not too much) but what is the problem with putting it to a vote, a referendum, ... "it" being the whole EU thing. I sense there is enough support for this, so, which party will grow a pair and make it an election issue?
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Old 04-11-2009, 22:00   #21
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Maybe I could send you a sawbuck so that you can see it yourself. There are also depicted poppies, the National War Memorial, and a Canadian veteran wearing the jacket and berret of the Royal Canadian Legion.
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Old 04-11-2009, 22:05   #22
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The only way we will ever return to this shop, is if whomever is responsible fer this ridiculous decision, is made to pay the price fer this insult to our fallen troops.
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Old 04-11-2009, 22:13   #23
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I see that Bodycare has outlets in Canada ... I most certainly will avoid them like the plague ... Oh, and the incident made the news on tv over here ... the buffoon who started this idiocy is going to make news world wide ... The intensity of the outrage is a good sign, and an indication that even though there are some insensitive idiots around, most still remember with pride and sorrow those who fell.
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Old 04-11-2009, 22:22   #24
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Canadian John McCrae's poem:

In Flanders fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below...
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields...
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields...
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that is a beautiful poem,,,Bodycare should be ashamed of themselves,,,,
i hope they think about it on remembrance Sunday,when all the old comrades pass the cenataph..
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Old 04-11-2009, 22:23   #25
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im already on my third poppy .. and its not even weekend yet ..

i heard that on the radio at teatime ..and couldnt believe it. A poppy is a tribute to all those who have fallen in times gone by and for those yet to fall. Have never since i was i kid missed wearing one .. spend the saturday before remembrance sunday watching the service at the royal albert hall .. have done since i was a kid .. a sign of respect
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Old 04-11-2009, 22:51   #26
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I got the metal pin poppy....hope it's not made in China.
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Old 04-11-2009, 23:33   #27
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to my mind this is a much bigger gaffe than "Gerald Ratner" made back in the day, far more insulting, n his virtually finished his business.
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Old 04-11-2009, 23:34   #28
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only virtually cashy ..
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only virtually cashy ..
yeh well i'm in a very kind mood.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:27   #30
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the way I see it is that the management of this company have acted out of order.. but to boycott the firm may put working staff out of a job and they are not the ones who should suffer for big time bosses.. at the end the boss will move on with a big wedge but workers will get nowt.
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