EDL mayhem in Blackburn tomorrow

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Restless

I have heard that before... but talking about believing statistics..... do you actually believe that to be true?

Oliver was apparently the most popular before and I know nobody with a child called Oliver.

My grandson is

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by accyman

surely there is a line even the EDL will not cross..

they allow scousers?

edit

i appologoise for my blatant scousism and am currently working on my scouseist views.I beg that there be no scouse protest marches as i dont think our town center could survive the static build up from over 100 shell suits gathered in one place

I'm deeply wounded Accy Man ...... I never had you down for a Scouseist ! The likes of Mancie & other Manky U supporters I can understand, but .......

[voiceofreason]

Does anyone on here think we should follow the french and ban the face veil? After all you cant go into a bank with a crash helmet on but you can with a berkha. Im undecided.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by voiceofreason

Does anyone on here think we should follow the french and ban the face veil? After all you cant go into a bank with a crash helmet on but you can with a berkha. Im undecided.

V.o.r, there's already a thread running & has been for quite some time on this contentious issue, see below :-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...rka-53987.html

[accyman]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

I'm deeply wounded Accy Man ...... I never had you down for a Scouseist ! The likes of Mancie & other Manky U supporters I can understand, but .......

ok calm down ,calm down, calm down

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by accyman

ok calm down ,calm down, calm down

He might do about 9-55 tonight accyman

[walkinman221]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Yes

Dont really understand that ,because correct me if i am wrong but the edl you have said are against the spread of islam and islamic ways and laws etc ,then why would you want muslims to join when they are the disciples of islam

[SamF]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

Dont really understand that ,because correct me if i am wrong but the edl you have said are against the spread of islam and islamic ways and laws etc ,then why would you want muslims to join when they are the disciples of islam

Don't look for sense where there is none pal, some people can't be helped.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

Dont really understand that ,because correct me if i am wrong but the edl you have said are against the spread of islam and islamic ways and laws etc ,then why would you want muslims to join when they are the disciples of islam

Originally Posted by SamF

Don't look for sense where there is none pal, some people can't be helped.

Hopefully a little clarification for you both (as I see it at least) WM221, SamF

Bagpuss posted #35, the "mission statement" of the EDL & in their first paragraph they go to great lengths to differentiate, between oppressive & radical Islam as opposed to moderate Islam. The Muslim believers themselves have vastly differing takes on the interpretation of the Koran & it's meanings dependent on the leanings of those spoken with.

Whilst we must always protect against the unjust assumption that all Muslims are complicit in or somehow responsible for these crimes, we must not be afraid to speak freely about these issues. This is why the EDL will continue to work to protect the inalienable rights of all people to protest against radical Islam’s encroachment into the lives of non-Muslims.

The above taken from the EDL's "Mission statement" on their homepage. So if their intents are as they say & that any & all may partake in & affiliate to the EDL, this statement infers that Muslims may also be members, so long as they harbour no radical intents & believe in moderate & fair treatment of all peoples. That said, from what one reads & sees not many Muslims have taken up the EDL on their offer, lack of clarity ? Uncertainty as to goals ? Or peer pressure from within their own communities ?

[SamF]

To quote, erm you.

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

It's posts and people like you that make me more determined than ever to push the fight against Islam and the fight to keep our way of life.

Nothing about extremism there pal.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by jaysay

He might do about 9-55 tonight accyman

See I told you so

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

The above taken from the EDL's "Mission statement" on their homepage. So if their intents are as they say & that any & all may partake in & affiliate to the EDL, this statement infers that Muslims may also be members, so long as they harbour no radical intents & believe in moderate & fair treatment of all peoples. That said, from what one reads & sees not many Muslims have taken up the EDL on their offer, lack of clarity ? Uncertainty as to goals ? Or peer pressure from within their own communities ?

Once again I must thank you Dave for your reply, it's all there in the mission statement. I have been told the EDL does have a small number of muslim members, approx 15, but they have ticked the box for no publicity at the moment although there is talk that we may have a muslim speaker at the next demo. I still think a muslim being a member of the EDL could cause that person to have a conflict of intrests but it's not the BNP so lets see how it goes.

Sam F, i've decided to ignore you because I think you are a troll.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Once again I must thank you Dave for your reply, it's all there in the mission statement. I have been told the EDL does have a small number of muslim members, approx 15, but they have ticked the box for no publicity at the moment although there is talk that we may have a muslim speaker at the next demo. I still think a muslim being a member of the EDL could cause that person to have a conflict of intrests but it's not the BNP so lets see how it goes.

Sam F, i've decided to ignore you because I think you are a troll.

The EDL were formed to oppose the spread of islam, yet there are muslim members ah well, suppose that's different

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

The EDL were formed to oppose the spread of islam

...and the EDL have growing support because they highlight fears that mainstream political parties continue to ignore.

Before I'm strung up from a lampost, I'll be fighting until my dying breath any radical religious zealots that are intent on taking away hard fought for democratic freedoms, we presently enjoy in Britain.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Whilst we must always protect against the unjust assumption that all Muslims are complicit in or somehow responsible for these crimes, we must not be afraid to speak freely about these issues. This is why the EDL will continue to work to protect the inalienable rights of all people to protest against radical Islam’s encroachment into the lives of non-Muslims.

The above taken from the EDL's "Mission statement" on their homepage. So if their intents are as they say & that any & all may partake in & affiliate to the EDL, this statement infers that Muslims may also be members, so long as they harbour no radical intents & believe in moderate & fair treatment of all peoples.

Originally Posted by jaysay

The EDL were formed to oppose the spread of islam, yet there are muslim members ah well, suppose that's different

Radical Islam Jay, same as many are opposed to extremists in other religions too, we only have to look over the "Pond" to get an idea or two (I'm sure our Colonial cousins could better inform us) plus we do have our own home grown bigots & defectives, NI & certain elements in Scotland spring to mind, the sorry thing about it all is that it's done & proclaimed under the guise of "Religion", seems atheism & agnosticism aren't such bad calls after all.