Ukip

[Margaret Pilkington]

Were you around back then?
You do talk a load of twaddle.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

so why is he allowed to stand under the ukip banner i dont remember anybody from labour supporting hitler ideology

Why was there no labour people joined Mosleys Blackshirts?

[cmonstanley]

different times, but if you go into oswalds blackshirts policies,they were anti semetic and racist but even they werent into aborting the disabled.

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[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

your back, welcome back

With a vengeance

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

different times, but if you go into oswalds blackshirts policies,they were anti semetic and racist but even they werent into aborting the disabled.

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You brought Hitler into the conversation no-one else.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

You brought Hitler into the conversation no-one else.

You can always tell when somebody is losing the argument when they start clutching at straws cashy

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

different times, but if you go into oswalds blackshirts policies,they were anti semetic and racist but even they werent into aborting the disabled.

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You just don't have a reasoned argument for any response anyone makes, you just jump around like a frog on acid posting uninformed comments bearing unrelated links with irrelevant arguments.

Wait....Ed Milliband...

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

different times, but if you go into oswalds blackshirts policies,they were anti semetic and racist but even they werent into aborting the disabled.

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they might have been, had the technology to diagnose before birth been available.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

so why is he allowed to stand under the ukip banner i dont remember anybody from labour supporting hitler ideology

No, but there have been instances of Labour politicians and leftwing fellow travellers supporting Soviet Union ideology...a regime every bit as repressive and murderous as the Nazis.

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by cashman

Why was there no labour people joined Mosleys Blackshirts?

Err....was not Sir Oswald Mosley (named, by the way, after a nasty little town just south-west of Accy) a member of the Labour Party in 1924? Was he not the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in the 1929 Labour government? Then did he not leave Labour to found the New Party and then the Blackshirts (BUF)?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

No, but there have been instances of Labour politicians and leftwing fellow travellers supporting Soviet Union ideology...a regime every bit as repressive and murderous as the Nazis.

Put a sociopath in power, surround him with sycophantic sadists, add a population exhausted by defeat, poverty, starvation, and overwhelmed by a feeling of hopelessness and you get a represive and murderous regime. It's no surprise that those on the right would be drawn to Hitler, and those on the left, to Stalin. I've no doubt they were unaware that both were insane. But there were differences between the two; some of them not so subtle. The Soviets wished to see Communism go global, mainly by sponsoring revolutionary movements ... Comintern, I believe it was called ... something like that anyway; I'm on a non google kick right now The Nazis, on the other hand, would do away with political subtleties and just go and take what they wanted, decimate populations, starve and work to death what was left, and usher in a tausend jahr dark age.

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by Eric

...... The Soviets wished to see Communism go global, mainly by sponsoring revolutionary movements ... Comintern, I believe it was called ... something like that anyway;

Well..possibly..bur surely this was the argument between Stalin and Trotsky and the debate between cementing revolution at home before the crackpot ideology can be exported?

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Eric

Put a sociopath in power, surround him with sycophantic sadists, add a population exhausted by defeat, poverty, starvation, and overwhelmed by a feeling of hopelessness and you get a represive and murderous regime. It's no surprise that those on the right would be drawn to Hitler, and those on the left, to Stalin. I've no doubt they were unaware that both were insane. But there were differences between the two; some of them not so subtle. The Soviets wished to see Communism go global, mainly by sponsoring revolutionary movements ... Comintern, I believe it was called ... something like that anyway; I'm on a non google kick right now The Nazis, on the other hand, would do away with political subtleties and just go and take what they wanted, decimate populations, starve and work to death what was left, and usher in a tausend jahr dark age.

The Soviet Union was responsible for the deaths of millions in slave labour camps by "starving and working to death". As for "sponsoring revolutionary movements", is that what they did at the end of the war in Poland, Hungary, Rumania, East Germany etc?...seems to me they went and "took what they wanted" just like the Nazis. There is no moral difference between the Nazi system and the old Soviet system. They both dealt in repression and death to ordinary people.

[cmonstanley]

sounds like the tory party to me

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

sounds like the tory party to me

Did you actually attend University to become an idiot or did it just come naturally