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JCB · 19-04-2017, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

He made a comment that alluded to the intelligence of 95% of the Hyndburn electorate when it came to voting on a referendum over the EU.
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I have only come across this 95% thing on this forum .

Did Graham Jones make the comment on this forum or elsewhere ?

When and where ?

Source please .

cashman · 19-04-2017, 12:19

He certainly made it, as for where memorys not that good, perhaps twitter cos hes come out with allsorts of rubbish on yon.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-04-2017, 12:22

I do not know where it came from....whether here or somewhere else.
And I think if you wish to find out then you can search the archives. If I had a source I would have posted it
It will no doubt be in the archives. I don't have the appetite to search for it. It was distasteful the first time around and I do not wish to revisit it.
There may be other members on here who will give you a source, or may have a clearer memory than mine.
I know that at the time it caused something of an uproar...and GJ was a regular contributor on here in the past.
He has not been much of a contributor recently...maybe he is too busy, maybe we are not really that important to him anymore.
Maybe we will become more important now he might be wanting our votes.

cashman · 19-04-2017, 12:30

Plus it was months ago last year sometime the comment was made, we know damn well what we read, if yer that interested JCB go have a root and dig it up.

Margaret Pilkington · 19-04-2017, 13:01

Cashy, I think it was longer ago than that. It was long before the referendum was granted(that is my memory anyway...anyone else who knows any better can set me straight).
At the time I felt it was an ill-considered comment.
I would not have seen it on Twitter as I do not subscribe to Twitter/Facebook.

Barrie Yates · 19-04-2017, 13:06

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Originally Posted by JCB

I have only come across this 95% thing on this forum .

Did Graham Jones make the comment on this forum or elsewhere ?

When and where ?

Source please .

It was pre-referendum - if I remember correctly it started when he said he believed in, and would vote for a referendum. When the time came and he didn't he was subjected to considerable criticism. He came out with the 95% statement soon afterwards. Not sure where that was made, or reported, I suggest that the first area for you to search would be on here prior to the actual vote for the referendum.

Neil · 19-04-2017, 13:36

Sorry for cross posting a quote from another thread but I think this is the post people are talking about. If you click the little blue arrow thing it will take you to the thread it came from

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Originally Posted by g jones

What a load of rubbish.

95% of people according to those surveyed by Populus don't put Europe as an important issue. That there was a case therefore for a referendum on a the issues the public rated more important. Sensible points.

I said I didn't bother about it. That I was easy on a referendum. You'll find Labour MPs for and Labour MPs against in their public comments. At the moment a vote came were in a euro zone crises and everyone agreed against a referendum. Common sense again given the circumstances.

I also said that we would vote to stay in. Latest opinion polls are confirming that with the dont knows moving to 'in'. Sky's recent poll was to stay in.

My own view - and your going to hate this - but every business bar one in Hyndburn I have spoken to is saying we must stay in.

As for calling Labour voters numpty's - bottom of the barrel stuff and undermines any argument put forward.

hilleluk · 19-04-2017, 13:39

Regular watcher of PMQs Today your MP actually asked a question, not a very good one mind

cashman · 19-04-2017, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Neil

Sorry for cross posting a quote from another thread but I think this is the post people are talking about. If you click the little blue arrow thing it will take you to the thread it came from

It came from "The Labour Gravy Train" thread, read it through JCB post 66 is very interesting also,its worth yeh reading before yeh vote Liberal.

Neil · 19-04-2017, 14:32

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Originally Posted by cashman

It came from "The Labour Gravy Train" thread, read it through JCB post 66 is very interesting also,its worth yeh reading before yeh vote Liberal.

You can access the thread by clicking the blue arrow on the post I quoted above

accyman · 19-04-2017, 15:30

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Originally Posted by JCB

I have only come across this 95% thing on this forum .

Did Graham Jones make the comment on this forum or elsewhere ?

When and where ?

Source please .

he said it on here

i would suggest searching %95 in the websites search but he has gotten so much crap for it over the years it comes up a lot

it all started when he said he woudl support us having a referendum and within a matter of weeks to get in good favor with milliband he voted that we shoudl not have a referendum

he got promoted to the whips office which some people saw as a reward for him betraying hyndburn

JCB · 19-04-2017, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Neil

Sorry for cross posting a quote from another thread but I think this is the post people are talking about. If you click the little blue arrow thing it will take you to the thread it came from

Thanks .

And it was a post by Graham Jones which I made a reply to .

He said , " 95% of people according to those surveyed by Populus don't put Europe as an important issue."

I wouldn't regard Graham Jones' reference to an opinion poll as his reflection on the intelligence of 95% of the Hyndburn electorate .

accyman · 19-04-2017, 17:56

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Originally Posted by JCB

Thanks .

And it was a post by Graham Jones which I made a reply to .

He said , " 95% of people according to those surveyed by Populus don't put Europe as an important issue."

I wouldn't regard Graham Jones' reference to an opinion poll as his reflection on the intelligence of 95% of the Hyndburn electorate .

he later said words to effect that we wernt able to comprehend the complexity of the EU

the two get taken together and thats where the %95 of us been too thick to get it comes from

then theres the public statement he released claiming it to be his own words where he forgets where he comes from and is clearly a mass issued statement from powers above where MPs are instructed to insert their constituency and pass it off as their own thoughts.Worse still it is a lie about us as we wernt asked it was all made up to make people think teh people of hyndburn backed immigration

turns out in the referendum that the tory party delivered as promised he was proven wrong as were his superiors

Less · 19-04-2017, 19:45

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Originally Posted by JCB

Thanks .

And it was a post by Graham Jones which I made a reply to .

He said , " 95% of people according to those surveyed by Populus don't put Europe as an important issue."

I wouldn't regard Graham Jones' reference to an opinion poll as his reflection on the intelligence of 95% of the Hyndburn electorate .

His favourite statistic was 95% no matter how small it's relevance to real facts.

He was often asked for proof of his claims...

...we are still waiting for his replies.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/1102384-post32.html

accyman · 19-04-2017, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less

His favourite statistic was 95% no matter how small it's relevance to real facts.

He was often asked for proof of his claims...

...we are still waiting for his replies.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/1102384-post32.html

it was at that point any further dealings he had with the riff raff were conducted mainly on facebook and twitter where he could control what remained , was said or allowed to be said

unlike here where if you say something you have to take it back pretty quickly or it stays here for years

also around the time most of the labour lot who were so vocal about tory failings and how much better they woudl do if elected ran away as well

it took about 2 questions and 1 criticism if i recall to get them fleeing