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[st06nc2]

Originally Posted by Neil

Electric cars are more environmentally friendly than petrol/diesel cars but not as much as many will think.

The cO2 that they save when driving they just make when they're being produced so they make no difference. You need a new battery every 3 years which can cost around 7 grand, they don't tell you the small print about electric cars

[monkey hanger]

still keeping my v6 and v8 vehicles plus my poluting old diesel car for stanley home games.

[Shurm]

Originally Posted by st06nc2

The cO2 that they save when driving they just make when they're being produced so they make no difference. You need a new battery every 3 years which can cost around 7 grand, they don't tell you the small print about electric cars

3 years ? Which electric car needs a battery every 3 years ?

[st06nc2]

Originally Posted by Shurm

3 years ? Which electric car needs a battery every 3 years ?

Nissan Leaf, experts found out the battery would only last 3-5 years

[KiTChener]

Originally Posted by st06nc2

Nissan Leaf, experts found out the battery would only last 3-5 years

Come on, Shurm, you have/had a Leaf....
What's the truth?

[Shurm]

0.01% Failures, 3 Failures in Europe out of 35000 cars up to 2015. You've got an 8 year warranty on the battery anyway. Still got one had a few this ones in Stanley Red with the Stanley sticker in back window.

https://cleantechnica.com/2015/03/25...ill-operation/

[Shurm]

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[KiTChener]

Originally Posted by Shurm

0.01% Failures, 3 Failures in Europe out of 35000 cars up to 2015. You've got an 8 year warranty on the battery anyway. Still got one had a few this ones in Stanley Red with the Stanley sticker in back window

Haven't noticed this one, still got your own name on the number plate?

[Shurm]

Not yet only just got it but will be on as soon as I get my flipping plates which are in the post

[Shurm]

Originally Posted by st06nc2

Nissan Leaf, experts found out the battery would only last 3-5 years

So which experts were these then ?

[st06nc2]

Originally Posted by Shurm

So which experts were these then ?

A new Leaf gets about 85 miles per charge (what is often called “up to 100 miles”). Some Leaf owners in hot-weather climates who drove a lot, nearly 20,000 miles a year, have found they’re only getting 60 or so miles per charge 12-14 months into the cars’ lives. Nissan says the “glide path” for a normal Leaf’s battery degradation is down to 70%-80% capacity after five years and about 70% after 10 years so these batteries may be getting old before their time. The issue is not minor: The manufacturing cost of the Leaf’s battery is around $15,000, so replacing the battery is half the cost of the car.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Shurm

0.01% Failures, 3 Failures in Europe out of 35000 cars up to 2015. You've got an 8 year warranty on the battery anyway. Still got one had a few this ones in Stanley Red with the Stanley sticker in back window.

https://cleantechnica.com/2015/03/25...ill-operation/

What real world miles per charge are you getting please? Did you notice the range decrease with battery age or have you not had them long enough to notice?

I'm interested in electric cars but the UK isn't ready for them on a massive scale yet. We don't have enough charging points, don't have enough capacity in the national grid and many people don't have a drive or garage at home to charge them.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Neil

What real world miles per charge are you getting please? Did you notice the range decrease with battery age or have you not had them long enough to notice?

I'm interested in electric cars but the UK isn't ready for them on a massive scale yet. We don't have enough charging points, don't have enough capacity in the national grid and many people don't have a drive or garage at home to charge them.

this is England lad we will hook them up to the lamp posts to charge em

[accyman]

i wonder how much it woudl cost to charge an electric car on a pay as you go meter

it seems to me everyone is on a different tarrif of payment even within the same company

[Shurm]

Originally Posted by Neil

What real world miles per charge are you getting please? Did you notice the range decrease with battery age or have you not had them long enough to notice?

I'm interested in electric cars but the UK isn't ready for them on a massive scale yet. We don't have enough charging points, don't have enough capacity in the national grid and many people don't have a drive or garage at home to charge them.

I get about 80-90 miles on a full charge Neil which I do at home once a week (cost £1.50-£2) but I could use the one in town which takes 20 minutes and was free but I think its £6-7 quid a month after a 6 month free trial. Every motorway services have the rapid chargers as well and some garages have them also. Places like the Trafford Centre have parking spaces and charge points.

There not for everyone I admit but I only do 4 mile to work and back so it suits us but the new leaf due out later this year is supposed to do 200 miles which I think will change things.

The cars seem expensive as a list price but people don't buy these cars outright brand new they will lease or put them on a pcp of some kind as its effectively renting but if you look into it you can get one as cheap monthly as say a small supermini.

Had one for 2 years which I've replaced didn't loose any bars on the battery state which it displays on the screen. You have a 8 year warranty on the battery anyway and servicing is cheap as no oil and filters to replace.

Volvo have just announced from 2019 all their cars will have some kind of electric motor whether it be hybrid or full electric.

It will come in time but my reason for having one is that its a cheap brand new car to drive if I'm honest I'm certainly no tree hugger .