Model Lodging House At Church - Page 2

Bob Dobson · 20-08-2015, 21:10

I am not convinced that there was a canalside lodging house at Church

Dave Walsh · 22-08-2015, 01:31

I know what you mean Bob-there is a lack of direct evidence from the building itself or anyone with any memories/stories. On the other hand it was hard to get any info re my place in Rammy for a long time. Maybe "decent folk" don't want to recall any association with hard times.

The Hyndburn Council report [Adopted in June 2008] "Church Canal Side Conservation Area Application and Management Plan" does indeed focus on Church but it's tone doesn't convince and the understanding/committment is questionable... plus it manages to coincides with the total financial collapse in that year, just when they were finally trying to do something-apparently.

To my mind, although somewhat patronising and written in archi/conservation speak it does seem historically valid and detailed. In Appendix 3, photograph 19 definetely shows the building at 55-57 Blackburn Road I'm talking about [currently with Right Move at £249k] and on the other side of Simpsons Bridge from Hargreaves Mill. It is described as the Model Lodging House-late nineteenth century. It's identified as a key building in the report! The Right Move description points out that the space on three floors is often subdivided into small areas [rooms] with walls that are not load bearing so they could be removed. This is how it would have been built as a lodging house in that period I suspect with partitions probaly built directly onto the floor boards, I've seen this before! Circumstantial but convincing evidence. Perhaps I can get in for a look?
Dave W

Bob Dobson · 22-08-2015, 05:43

This is helpful towards proving it was a lodging house but I stlll have doubts. I think it would be worthwhile- but time consuming- to further explore for evidence. No time now to do it or reply in further detail. Good on you for finding this

Dave Walsh · 22-08-2015, 19:18

Ok Bob thanks for that! I'll report any progress. I'm in the same position down in Sussex but I shall seek assistance.
Dave

Bob Dobson · 23-08-2015, 11:11

Ask Accrington library to see if there was an obituary of the lodging house keeper if you know when he died, or if they have anything on him - a cutting maybe. [email protected]

Search the Blackburn newspapers on-line using keyword 'lodging house' or 'model.'or the keeper's name. Also ask Blackburn library if they have any cuttings on the chap.They may have a file on obits.from the papers

Dave Walsh · 23-08-2015, 19:54

Thanks Bob-time and location as ever but I'll will try to keep on it. There was a radical Vicar on Blackburn Road. He seemed to have difficulty because he was more interested in helping people than arguing about the structure of the Church. I'm sure he must have been involved with the MLH at some point.
Dave

Bob Dobson · 24-08-2015, 06:26

David Hogg's books on Church & Ossie may refer to it.

Dave Walsh · 24-08-2015, 22:15

Will check that but I took the book to Rammy and I'm in Sussex just now!
Dave

Dave Walsh · 05-10-2015, 16:06

Still on sale but that's no surprise. I'm back in Rammy soon so I will take another look perhaps. For some reason Church District has really caught my attention. Not just because of a possible family link or the Lodging House connection but maybe that I remember when Rammy was considered a bit of a lost cause.
Dave W

MovedtoBolton · 06-12-2016, 18:20

Hi Dave,
I note this is an old thread and I've no knowledge of the Church MLH. However my Great Grandfather is recorded on the 1901 census as lodging - with many others at 8 Paradise Street, Ramsbottom. A widower at 22,he moved there from Oldham sometime between 1891 and 1901

wadey · 09-12-2016, 19:47

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Originally Posted by MovedtoBolton

Hi Dave,
I note this is an old thread and I've no knowledge of the Church MLH. However my Great Grandfather is recorded on the 1901 census as lodging - with many others at 8 Paradise Street, Ramsbottom. A widower at 22,he moved there from Oldham sometime between 1891 and 1901

I have several photos of the Ramsbottom lodging house if yoy need any

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rossen...-aKxEiP-aGTeg8

In 1911 it was "Model Lodgings", run by a Mr Kipling and accommodating 37 males and 26 females. The word "institution" is added to the description.

Dave Walsh · 04-11-2017, 18:46

I've not posted on the Accy Web since October 2016 [it seems] but managed a quick visit in September. Got some more great pies at the shop in Henry Street and walked along the Canal, with my brother, to Hargreaves Mill. We were pleased to see that the Model Lodging House next door has been renovated. A couple of what seemed to be employees turned up but we were on the wrong side of the road at that point. Who's purchased it and for what purpose? Has anyone any up to date info to share?

The front of the building has been cleaned which doesn't seem to have damaged the very faded inscription over the door any further but it's still impossible to read. I asked about that once before but nobody seemed to know anything. Are there any overall up-dates about Church District in general I wonder? Is THE Church [Kirk] still boarded up and on sale? All responses welcome. I'm away from home at present so not able to check things out myself.

Sorry I'd failed to notice the two previous posts from Bolton and Wadey [ you wait for one post and two come along at once!]. I've identified the G Grandfather of a woman who lives near me in Rammy as a Resident at my home in 1891 as well and the photos sound interesting. I will get in touch with both helpful respondents directly as I doubt they will be watching the thread. I'm still focussed on the Church Lodging House of course.

Dave W