[janloot]

not sure it was a long time ago, docker rings a bell, the wagon i bought off john fitz was an old ironfields tk, but was a ten tonner, carrot had a heavy goods licence and did drive for a living at that time, if that helps, and of course red hair, hence carrot, but my sister saw him not so long ago,in a pub around the back of the old stanley ground --jaz club, cant remember the name of it, so he is still about,