[jambutty]

I’m not trying to win an argument Cyfr because even the thickest of people will realise that banning cars is never likely to happen.

What I am trying to do is to get those people who use motorised vehicles to accept and acknowledge that vehicle exhaust fumes kill and maim far more people than tobacco ever did. But they won’t because if they do and they still pontificate about smokers and passive smoking they will also have to acknowledge that they are hypocrites of the first order and their anti smoking campaign is nothing more than foisting their views on other people.