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Originally Posted by steeljack
Ok Bullseyebarb , you've made a couple of digs at me about wanting "socialized/universal" medicine to be introduced here in the U S , if you care to look at the situation we do have in fact have a form of socialized/healthcare here , but only if either you are a Federal/State/County/City employee,(h*ll even the town rat catcher has better benefits than the average working joe) or if you are indigent (read also illegal), in both cases they have cradle to grave coverage, otherwise, if you are lucky your employer provides it , and fewer do every year citing rising costs, If you switch jobs you lose your coverage until you are picked up by your new employers policy holder unless you make COBRA payments (good luck if you have a wife and kids or God forbid a pre-existing condition) .
Surly if we can afford to provide healthcare to all the pigs at the trough we should be able to provide something to the actual workers (taxpayers) who are producing the wealth and paying for it.
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We are getting way off topic here. However, I don't disagree with you. Apart from the entities mentioned above, we have Medicare, Medicaid and the Veterans Administration. Medicare and Medicaid alone are going to bankcrupt our country long before Social Security does. And we should certainly not be providing benefits to illegal aliens. It was a very bad idea for the government to get involved in healthcare. I came to the U.S. before Medicare was signed into law, so I know how well a truly free market system can work. I'd like to return to that. I just don't want something like Hillarycare. I have no problem providing for people with pre-existing or extreme conditions if they are unable to obtain major medical coverage. But such cases are in the minority. Most of us go through life with average needs. I find that self-insurance for basic care is far more cost effective. I just want insurance for the big stuff. And that should be my choice.