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Originally Posted by Cyfr
You blame the Tories in the 80's in your first post on page 6, so I respond telling you to think about the future, what's happening now, the hypocrisy in parliament of Labour MP's voting for closures but then campaigning locally for offices to stay open, rather than constantly referring to the Thatcher years as Labour too often blame for everything, even when they've been in power for 11 years.
You then take my argument, you quite frankly plagiarise it and make it your own! Trying to blame me for talking too much about the past and not the present. How ridiculous! I hope the voters can see you for who you are.
This is exactly why people are so apathetic about politics, you are exactly the reason people are so turned off and why voter turnout is so low now.
Hypocritical, past your sell by date, a spin politician twisting peoples words to make yourself look good in any situation. We need a new politics, we need to work together, we need to be transparent and open, not treating the voters like idiots, people can see you're completely twisting my argument to your own benefit, we might have fallen for it in 1997 but no more!
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You seemed to have stopped talking about the issues and started a slur campaign. And then you switch to a rallying call for honesty and truth. In pointing out the Tories on pg 6 I also pointed out Labour, so please don's attempt to con the readers by not expressing what was written in a fair way.
I don't agree with national politicians batting for both teams. Labour politicians in this case and more often than not many cases. eg.Hazel Blears on hospitals. I was embarrassed by their actions. What you say about me is just ridiculous, insulting and demeaning.
I joined the Council because I was fed up with people always trying to pull the wool over ordinary people, Labour and Tory. That was my motivation. Nothing has changed.
I accept Conservatives like your good self are there to do everything possible to shoot me down. It's what old school politics is about. Ignore the issues and throw mud.
I agree with Cameron on sleazy politics. But Blair said the same! I think I am one of the few that believe Cameron actually does mean it, I never thought Blair did, and I admire him for that. If we have a Conservative Government, I hope Cameron's legacy is that he cleaned up politics.
The real world is events beyond your control. Such as Derek Conway paying family members. Cameron dealt with it well. I didn't hold it over Cameron personally and I think to a large extent, you shouldn't hold me to account so cyncially when it has little to do with me in reality.
Hyndburn politics is morally corrupt. Except this time it's coming from the blue corner. I don't care about your view on this as it's an issue of personal moral principle, and something that got me into politics in the beginning. We have to clean Hyndburn politics up and make sure this corruption never happens again.
I guess your on Britcliffe's team and we'll just have to disagree.