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Old 29-03-2008, 09:17   #59
claytonender
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Re: Council Tax

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Originally Posted by Cyfr View Post
Your £15930 figure is an average of full and part time, but someone working 37 hours is full time.

So..
Man working 37 hours in 2007 (and this is working within Hyndburn not outside of it): £21,622
Woman working 20 hours a week on minimum wage (20 x £5.52 = £110.40 per week): £5740.80

Which is £27,362.80

If the woman works full time at minimum wage that's £10620.50 so works out to be £32,242.50

In a band A house this would mean that if the woman was working 20 hours, council tax would be 3.4% of their income or 4.2% if they lived in a band B property (the majority of which is county council tax).

If there's only one earner, then they get discounts on council tax. The £28k figure is perfectly plausible even if two people don't work full time. As it says on LCC website, 52.7% is the amount household income has increased in 6 years, I think that this is good as its inline with the national average, and means that we have a very good deal where it comes to council tax since that has only gone up 45% in 9 years.
Ok

Whilst I agree the £28,000 figure is perfectly plausible, my arguement is that most households in Hyndburn have income of less than this. It is an average, and as you know averages are inflated by people who earn higher wages (I know there are some in Hyndurn - but my argument is that the majority earn much less).

It would be interesting to see the average wage broken down by ward (and polling district within each ward). I think then you would find that in most wards (whre the Band A properies are situated) the household and per capita income is much smaller).


Your average wage for a man working within Hyndburn in 2007 is £21662 (which is £11.26 an hour). I think you will find that most jobs in Hyndburn are paying much less than this. Averages will always be just that, can you please show me evidence of adverts for jobs that justify your figures.

Also single person households only get a 25% reduction in Council Tax, which you have failed to mention in your post.

You have also failed to take into consideration households where there are 2 pensioners. If there joint pension Is £192.37 a week (£10,000 per annum) with modest savings, they would get no help with Council Tax. You have to remember that whilst State Retirement Pension is increased every year, many private pensions do not increase from the level that they when they were first paid.

I appreciate that you are a student and used to doing research, so you must excuse a 'poor' pensioner for trying to dissect your arguments.

Last edited by claytonender; 29-03-2008 at 09:21. Reason: hit posr button before I had finished
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