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Originally Posted by Mancie
I don't think I've got you all wrong and I don't think you have an allegiance to any party..but you have always defend this governments policy cuts regarding benefits and still do.
All your talk of how hard you had it in a past implies that the poor in our society should be made to suffer like you and your family did...whatever you think of the "welfare state" it was put in place as a means for those at the bottom to have a half decent life and the chance to improve their life..but now you seem to think all should stay on the bottom.. I believe that has always been the Tories policy and It's not just me.
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Utter rubbish Mancie.
If I thought that, I would not have made a better life for myself by education, perseverance and hard work...starting at the bottom and working up.......but that doesn't suit your ideas of me or my rationale of taking responsibility for yourself. Not expecting to be given things.
All my siblings have made good lives for themselves because we were given something that seems sadly lacking today...
.a work ethic.......work at
something......it might not be exactly what you want to do, but it will do until something better comes along. We knew that if we didn't work, then we didn't eat. We were not given benefits....cod liver oil,orange juice...free school dinners...that was
all we got.
It is
because of my poor start that I developed the determination to do better for myself.
I do not need a history lesson fron you either.
You do not have to tell me anything about the Welfare state........I was there when it started. It was never meant to sustain people long term. It was a helping hand....it was means tested so that those who truly were poor got the money, anyone else had to fend for themselves.
At one time my mother was earning one shilling more than the poverty level, which meant we were poor, but not quite poor enough to claim any assistance. she was told that if she left my father with the children they would be able to claim National Assistance.
What do you think she did? She went out and got another job.
You seem to KNOW what I want, but you are wide of the mark.
I want benefits to go to those who truly need them.......those who have worked and are not in work at present(whether that be because of illness, unemployment whatever).
I want people to take seriously, their responsibility to maintain themselves ....not leave everything to governments(whatever colour the government coat is - I don't damn well care).
I want people to be educated and trained, so that they are suitable to take the jobs on offer.
I want the people of this country to be emplyed first above migrants...not the other way about.
I want benefits to be a short term thing...with more help to get people into work....and jobs that are sustainable.
This is my Christmas list.
I know that come Christmas morning all that I will find in my stocking will be a hole.