EFL Trophy

[st06nc2]

Originally Posted by Mr Matthew

3686 signatures, is that all? We should get that many sig's from Pompey fans alone.

Pompey prob voted for it

[Tommy McQueen]

Originally Posted by AccyMad

Done

Done as well

[Outback Ozzy]

Done, over 4,000 now

[Kiwi John]

Done...international condemnation.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Lemur

A Morecambe fan's view

Re: JPT
By SeagieYesterday at 16:15:36In response to Re: JPT
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Quite. I'll never attend another game of this tournament again and I hope all the Premier League kids suffer horrible career threatening injuries in every game.

Why do some football fans have to be complete morons ?

Originally Posted by st06nc2

Pompey prob voted for it

I've seen somewhere, possibly twitter that Pompey & Luton voted against

[accybeme]

can't see how any lower league team could vote in favour but apparently Oxford and majority the did

[deeayess]

Originally Posted by accybeme

can't see how any lower league team could vote in favour but apparently Oxford and majority the did

It will be for money. Just like everything at the top of football just now and lower clubs will be hoping teams from big clubs draw big crowds.

Next thing will be that the trial will be a success and the looney tunes idea suggested of premier reserves in the lower leagues will come to pass.

[DAV007]

Originally Posted by accybeme

can't see how any lower league team could vote in favour but apparently Oxford and majority the did

the attendance figures at JPT games compared to league and FA cup games are low until the regional semi finals.

With premier league clubs sending B teams, you will possibly have a lot more away fans and a nice earner for what use to be a fixture where clubs may have lost money.

[Exile on Spencer St]

Originally Posted by DAV007

With premier league clubs sending B teams, you will possibly have a lot more away fans and a nice earner for what use to be a fixture where clubs may have lost money.

Not so sure about that, Davo.
Clubs like Stanley need fans who can be persuaded to come regularly, not 'one-off' earners in a cup in which League 2 teams will have even less chance of progressing.
I once (never again!) went with a work colleague to see Reading v Arsenal U21s, played at Basingstoke Town's ground. Firstly, the football was turgidly predictable, with neither team willing to do anything that 'risked' losing the ball or an injury. Secondly, whilst there was a few hundred there, I don't believe there were many true 'away' fans. Most of them were Basingstoke fathers with kids who 'support' Arsenal (i.e. watch Sky). I don't think there were many, if any, North London residents who'd made the arduous journey to Basingstoke.
So if Stanley drew, say, Everton U21s, I suspect the only extra money Stanley would earn is from the odd (very odd) local residents who 'support' Everton and otherwise might rarely get to watch The Toffees. Doubt if there'll be many true 'away' fans.
More likely this is 'tester' to see how Academy teams compare with the lower League teams and, if they can hold their own or better, then don't be surprised if the 'extra' 20 teams that will make up the proposed 5th Division are Premier League Academies.

[carpon]

Personally, I don't like this proposal as I feel it is being used by these bigger clubs and fat cats to "test the water" as a precursor in regard to trying to potentially place academy teams within the Football League Pyramid.

Its bad enough that the academy status has four levels where the fat cats can cream off the best of the talent pool for a pittance. To then have them push these players back onto the rest of the Football League in whatever format, whether it be by this "proposal" or "experiment" or any future proposal or idea stinks.

They (big clubs ) swallow up all the obscene amounts of T.V. money and we as lower league clubs have to fight over the scraps that fall from the top table. All this while paying foreigners ridiculous wages.

A better idea would be to limit the number of foreign players allowed to play in their teams, thus forcing them to play homegrown talent as they do in the Bundesliga where the German F.A. adopt a similar ruling.

I won't attend any game in the Paint Pot Cup next season out of principle. If ever the day comes when Academy sides are allowed to compete in the Football League, then I'm afraid that is the day when my love of the game will probably be fatally damaged.

[mab]

Done

[maccawozzagod]

Originally Posted by carpon

If ever the day comes when Academy sides are allowed to compete in the Football League, then I'm afraid that is the day when my love of the game will probably be fatally damaged.

Ditto Carpon. I've watched Stanley man and boy for 30 odd years, and what drives me as, a lower league fan, is aspiration and faith in the pyramid system. If big clubs were allowed to enter 2nd rate teams into OUR competitions then I would withdraw my support for football entirely.

Lancashire Cup matches against Liverpool and Man Utd either drew next to nothing crowds or were played on Arden Hall in the afternoon. How thrilling.

I WILL go to the home matches against proper teams in the JPT, but they can shove their academy games up their collective arses

[cashman]

I'm of the same mind as carpon and macca.

[Exile on Spencer St]

[QUOTE=maccawozzagod;1170427] If big clubs were allowed to enter 2nd rate teams into OUR competitions /QUOTE]

One problem, Macca, is that they may not be that 2nd rate.
The Premier League rules run to hundreds and hundreds of pages but I think Academy teams are for players under 21 BUT can also contain one older goalkeeper and between 3 and 5 other older players.
So an Academy team could have just seven youngsters (all of whom will have come through the system since they were tots, and will be potentially good players) and five seasoned pros who either don't get much first team minutes or are coming back from injury.
One of the main points of the Paint Pot, and its previous incarnations, was surely the chance for League 1 and 2 teams to get to Wembley. I know that 'going to Wembley' has been much debased by the FA (needing to service its debts for building the stadium) but this change will make the chances of getting to Wembley for a small club about the same odds as in the FA Cup but without any of the financial return the latter competition brings.
Petitions from fans won't change anything, particularly one so tersely worded as this one, but there may be more effect if a good number of clubs simply boycotted the EFL Trophy and thus devalued it for its sponsor. Which business wants to be associated with a discredited product?

[shillelagh]

anyone listen to radio Lancashire tonite at 6pm the sports hour? interesting ...