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SPUGGIE J 15-09-2005 18:37

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He wouldnt miss it besides the park needs it more. He serves the comunity and if he aint listening he better beware a size 12 up the arthur could be his next big suprise. There will be plenty of willing people so are you first in the que park381?:D

park381 15-09-2005 18:55

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
He wouldnt miss it besides the park needs it more. He serves the comunity and if he aint listening he better beware a size 12 up the arthur could be his next big suprise. There will be plenty of willing people so are you first in the que park381?:D

Think a size 12 would be a big surprise.......................count me in :D

SPUGGIE J 15-09-2005 19:38

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It will be an even bigger suprise when we find it fits nice and snug up there.

Gayle 15-09-2005 20:20

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PB did say that the £100k would come from the council as match. When asked how they would find that he just said, 'well, we'll have to'.

Not that I wouldn't be grateful for the park getting the money, I wonder where he's thinking of slashing the budget to find it?

park381 15-09-2005 20:48

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
PB did say that the £100k would come from the council as match. When asked how they would find that he just said, 'well, we'll have to'.

Not that I wouldn't be grateful for the park getting the money, I wonder where he's thinking of slashing the budget to find it?

Would have thought the total parks budget would be thrown in to the pot, leaving all the other parks in the borough with no maintenance budget. Not that they seem to have had much anyway.
But I'm sure HBC will find another grant from some where to contribute as their share

Neil 15-09-2005 21:04

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
Not that I wouldn't be grateful for the park getting the money, I wonder where he's thinking of slashing the budget to find it?

When you think about the match fund, it is like getting £1 million for an investment of £100,000. Would you not try hard to find the £100,000 if you were the Council?

SPUGGIE J 16-09-2005 11:09

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Ince when did HBC try hard at anything other than what they themselves benifit from. Unlees there is to be some huge amount of publicity then it could take a while.

Gayle 16-09-2005 17:07

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Originally Posted by Neil
When you think about the match fund, it is like getting £1 million for an investment of £100,000. Would you not try hard to find the £100,000 if you were the Council?

Though technically they'll only get £900,000 for an investment of £100,000. I still think it's brilliant, don't get me wrong, and I DO want to see it happen. What I meant was that it was said in a very blase way 'we'll find it somehow', can you see the fuss when someone finds out that the budget has been slashed for something else to the tune of £100k.

As for finding alternative funding, it's unlikely that they'll be able to apply for other funding to match this as funders don't accept money from other funders as match very often. So either the Council will have to find the money or Friends of Rhyddings Park will have to fund raise.

In some respects I'd be quite happy to see Friends of Rhyddings Park doing some of the fund raising themselves - that way it gives more ownership to the people. If you've stumped up £20 say, to add to the pot you'd be more interested in how it was spent or less likely to give in to vandals, etc. Could help to encourage more community involvement.

garinda 16-09-2005 17:38

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Things that have been lost from the park in my living memory, [1965.]

-Tennis courts.
-Paddling pool.
-A park keeper.
-The bandstand.
-Pitch and put.
-Toilets.
-A cafe.
-Flower beds.
-A sand pit.
-Tarmaced paths.


I count myself lucky that I can't remember Rhyddings Hall, given to the people of Oswaldtwistle as a museum/art gallery, and sadly demolished by the council in it's wisdom. A neglected crown, sadly missing what could have been a sparkling jewel.

Gayle 16-09-2005 17:48

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- Table tennis
- Place where you could hire bowls(balls?)/rackets/etc
- Ice cream shop
- Slides and roundabouts (I know they have them now but they're puny compared to what we used to have.
- Benches all around
- Peacocks

Gayle 16-09-2005 17:50

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Sorry, forgot one last thing

- Tons of people using it every day.

garinda 16-09-2005 17:52

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Benches, thats the main one I forgot!

The man who you hired the equipment from would also lend you a pencil for your score cards if you'd forgotton to bring one.

garinda 16-09-2005 17:56

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
Sorry, forgot one last thing

- Tons of people using it every day.

The best thing about the re-siting of the playground, as I'm sure you know, is the amount of children using the equipment since it was opened, even on wet days, proving that if the ammenities are there people will use them.

Gayle 16-09-2005 18:00

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Couldn't agree more, Garinda. In hindsight the playground should have been bigger to cope with the amount of people who want to use it.

Does make you think how many people would start using pitch and putt etc if there was someone manning it all.

SPUGGIE J 16-09-2005 18:04

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
- Table tennis
- Place where you could hire bowls(balls?)/rackets/etc
- Ice cream shop
- Slides and roundabouts (I know they have them now but they're puny compared to what we used to have.
- Benches all around
- Peacocks

To think all the ammenites that have been removed its a digrace. Most municiple parks keep no animals at all we lost the animal corner in my local park 5 years ago and it is missed. The first time I was taken to Ryddings park as a kid I was fasinated by the peacocks and the beautiful fanning of its tail. Oh the happy memories dystroyed by a bunch of short sighted self interested so and so's. :( Where did the peacocks end up?

garinda 16-09-2005 18:22

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Peacocks? Don't know.

I'll ask the few manky rabbits and ducks that are left.

Neil 16-09-2005 19:02

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Shhh don't mention peacocks. They are noisy things and I am close to the park :D. I remember going to the park with my grandma, she used to live on Roberts Street, the peacocks were there then. There would be no reason why the play area could not be extended in the future.

garinda 16-09-2005 22:20

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Ok peacocks can make an awful racket, and I heard that they were removed because of complaints from residents on Edinburgh Drive.

They'll be complaining about the nasty leaves blowing into their gardens next.


It's like townies moving to the country, and complaining about being woken up early by the early cock crow.

Neil 16-09-2005 23:26

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I have a picture of the new light in all its night time lit up glory. Will try to post it tomorrow as I am having some PC troubles today.

garinda 16-09-2005 23:34

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It's angled towards Melrose Avenue/Hawthorn Avenue, so no complaints from Park Lane/Rhyddings Street please.;)

Neil 17-09-2005 04:34

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It throws light down the big field towards Park Lane as well.

garinda 17-09-2005 09:04

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Originally Posted by Neil
It throws light down the big field towards Park Lane as well.

So does the sun.:hothothot


Start a petition to have it rerouted.;)

Neil 17-09-2005 09:35

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Originally Posted by garinda
So does the sun.:hothothot


Start a petition to have it rerouted.;)

Can we reroute it into my garden please?

garinda 17-09-2005 09:40

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Ok I'll see what I can do, I do have some influence. Front or back?

If we have it rising in the north/setting in the south, you'll have it in your front garden in the morning and in the back in the afternoon.

I hope this will be ok with Simon, as it'll be the reverse for him.

Neil 17-09-2005 10:02

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Originally Posted by garinda
Ok I'll see what I can do, I do have some influence. Front or back?

If we have it rising in the north/setting in the south, you'll have it in your front garden in the morning and in the back in the afternoon.

I hope this will be ok with Simon, as it'll be the reverse for him.

I think he might enjoy his back passage warmed for a change.

Gayle 17-09-2005 10:08

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Can we have a rotational option please so that I get some sun every now and then?

garinda 17-09-2005 10:10

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
Can we have a rotational option please so that I get some sun every now and then?


With the new north to south rerouting, you'll be the same as Simon because your houses face the same way.:)

Gayle 17-09-2005 10:16

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In that case, I'm perfectly happy with the arrangement. Well done, now if you could just have a word with God and see what you could do it would be much appreciated.

garinda 17-09-2005 10:19

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Leave it with me, I'll have a word with her.

Gayle 17-09-2005 10:25

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While you're doing it could you discuss whether we could have it on a more regular basis as well. I mean, if she's going to go to all the trouble of shifting the earth's cycle etc, she might as well go the whole hog and arrange for us to have it more often.

Neil 17-09-2005 10:29

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Originally Posted by garinda
Leave it with me, I'll have a word with her.

I am sorry but God can't be female. If God was female she would have made the world perfect because women can do no wrong :rolleyes:

garinda 17-09-2005 10:31

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No problem. :)

Can arrange for Chtristmas to be in the summer if you prefer, or we could have the equator running through the UK, for that all year round tropical climate.

We might have rather more wildlife down at the nature reserve though!

Gayle 17-09-2005 10:40

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Oh, no, I like a good white Christmas.

garinda 17-09-2005 10:48

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Leave it as it is then, even I can't please all of the people all of the time.;)

When are we going to be shocked and amazed by this photograph of the light at night. The one that is so bright, that the people within a mile radius will need blackout curtains to get a good nights sleep?

Neil 17-09-2005 12:14

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Later today. I am having technical difficulties and need to purchase a large hammer to repair my network at home.

Neil 17-09-2005 16:14

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Here they are. Sorry about the quality but I took them from the bottom path. the park at night is too dark and scary to walk in alone.

garinda 17-09-2005 16:23

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Since I live half a mile away west by north-west, I quite agree it is much too bright.

Where do I sign the petition?;)

Neil 17-09-2005 16:33

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Petitions are a waste of time. I watched a program on TV where they had some green types signing a petition to bad Di-Hydrogen Monoxide. They just signed like sheep to ban it. Have a guess what it is.

garinda 17-09-2005 16:38

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Acid rain.


What do I win, an umberella?


The area the light casts doesn't seem to go about five yards past the fence of the playground, does anybody still find it intrusive?

Neil 17-09-2005 16:45

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It is just water

garinda 17-09-2005 16:52

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Originally Posted by Neil
It is just water

No it's acid rain, water is just H2O.

See me after class.

Neil 17-09-2005 16:58

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H2O dihydrogen as in 2 atoms of hydrogen and monoxide as in one atom of oxygen make H2O.

garinda 17-09-2005 17:00

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Sorry I'm wrong but so are you, I didn't read the 'Di' bit.

DiHydrogen Monoxide is a coolant that's used in industry, and apparently causes many thousands of deaths per year.

You can still see me after class though.;)

Neil 17-09-2005 18:02

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post a link mate

garinda 18-09-2005 06:27

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Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info

Now you are asking too much!

Tried.

Google the above, first thing is an interesting site.:(

park381 18-09-2005 19:44

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Originally Posted by Neil
Here they are. Sorry about the quality but I took them from the bottom path. the park at night is too dark and scary to walk in alone.

Thanks for those photo's Neil, I don't think that is an 100w lantern on the top of an 8M column as specified in HBC's Planning application :rolleyes:

park381 18-09-2005 19:49

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Originally Posted by Neil
It throws light down the big field towards Park Lane as well.

Looking at your photo's would think the best view would be from the corner house " John Riley's" old house at the corner of park lane / rhyddings street.

park381 18-09-2005 19:52

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Are the Neighbourhood watch CCTV cameras trained on the area yet garinda, am sure they must have a great view. :rolleyes:

park381 18-09-2005 19:56

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Originally Posted by Neil
H2O dihydrogen as in 2 atoms of hydrogen and monoxide as in one atom of oxygen make H2O.

No I think water is 2 atoms of hydrogen and 1 atom of oxygen making H2O. Monoxide is something that is produced when burning gas as in carbon monoxide, that would put you to sleep for good

Neil 21-09-2005 05:32

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Originally Posted by garinda
Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info

Now you are asking too much!

Tried.

Google the above, first thing is an interesting site.:(

Read this site again Gary http://www.dhmo.org/ knowing that it is water. It is a site more sarcastic than I am.

Like these bits from that site.
Quote:

  • DHMO is an "enabling component" of acid rain -- in the absence of sufficient quantities of DHMO, acid rain is not a problem.
  • DHMO is a causative agent in most instances of soil erosion -- sufficiently high levels of DHMO exacerbate the negative effects of soil erosion.
  • DHMO is present in nearly every creek, stream, pond, river, lake and reservoir in the U.S. and around the world.
  • Recent massive DHMO exposures have lead to the loss of life and destruction of property in California, the Mid-West, the Philippines, and a number of islands in the Caribbean, to name just a few.


Without water none of those statements would be true :)


I like this one as well

Quote:

>There are records of the Chinese using dihydrogen monoxide as an instrument of torture. The mind altering effects of dihydrogen-monoxide have been known in China for centuries. It is used in a well known 'brain washing' technique to break the spirit of various detainees.





Neil 21-09-2005 05:47

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And then you can read this about Dihydrogen monoxide

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

garinda 21-09-2005 12:10

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Without water nothing you say will be true, you are water you humans.

I'm lucky I'm ethreal.:)

garinda 21-09-2005 12:15

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Originally Posted by park381
Are the Neighbourhood watch CCTV cameras trained on the area yet garinda, am sure they must have a great view. :rolleyes:



The cameras go wherever there is trouble, and there isn't any at the playground now the lights up.:)

8 meters? Did you have the right glasses on? It looks about four at the most.

park381 21-09-2005 20:16

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Originally Posted by garinda
The cameras go wherever there is trouble, and there isn't any at the playground now the lights up.:)

8 meters? Did you have the right glasses on? It looks about four at the most.

How do you know there is no trouble in the play area, can you see it from where you live, just like Cllr Heyes. :cool:

Please read my post No 146, no it don't look like an 8M column, nor does the light look like an 100W lantern.
HBC's planning application was for just that, an 8M column with an 100W lantern on the end of an arm e.g. a side street light.
It is very clear from Neils pics that the light and column are not as per the planning application, therefore HBC are in breach of the planning application. So it is a good job I moved or I would be on to the Planning Enforcement Officer. :eek:

garinda 21-09-2005 22:25

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Yes we have a great view of it thanks.:)

All happy kids playing and no teenage wasters to report.:)

Neil 22-09-2005 05:51

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A couple of people have commented to me that there have been less teenagers hanging around the play area after dark.
It looks like a 150w or 250w sonpak type light fitting to me.

park381 22-09-2005 07:37

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Originally Posted by Neil
A couple of people have commented to me that there have been less teenagers hanging around the play area after dark.
It looks like a 150w or 250w sonpak type light fitting to me.

That's what I thought, not seen it at close range but if it is then HBC have left themselves wide open for the residents to complain if they want. The light is not what was specified in the planning application, HBC could be made to remove it.

park381 22-09-2005 07:48

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Yes we have a great view of it thanks.:)

Where from the roof, have you moved back home :D

garinda 22-09-2005 08:09

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My family home over looks the play area so we have a great view. Yes it may be a bit sad having a bedroom I still use at home as well as my own house, the one with the indoor pool I consider my holiday home.:). It's on eye level with the play area as well, we don't have to stand on a chair and stretch our necks, and peer over an hedge like they do on Park Lane to see the play area.;)

park381 22-09-2005 11:43

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Originally Posted by garinda
My family home over looks the play area so we have a great view. Yes it may be a bit sad having a bedroom I still use at home as well as my own house, the one with the indoor pool I consider my holiday home.:). It's on eye level with the play area as well, we don't have to stand on a chair and stretch our necks, and peer over an hedge like they do on Park Lane to see the play area.;)

Ah, they've cut the trees down on the fielding lane side of the park, so that you have a better view. :eek:

Neil 22-09-2005 11:46

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Originally Posted by park381
That's what I thought, not seen it at close range but if it is then HBC have left themselves wide open for the residents to complain if they want. The light is not what was specified in the planning application, HBC could be made to remove it.

I kind of think that problem will get passed onto another group of people very soon.

park381 22-09-2005 12:11

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Originally Posted by Neil
I kind of think that problem will get passed onto another group of people very soon.

Aye you could be right about that, may be the grant will strech to security lighting all round the park, now that would be a good thing.

garinda 22-09-2005 16:42

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Originally Posted by park381
Ah, they've cut the trees down on the fielding lane side of the park, so that you have a better view. :eek:


No, there are what we call gaps between the trees/bushes.


If you weren't such a naughty squirel I'd invite you in to see.

park381 22-09-2005 16:58

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Originally Posted by garinda
No, there are what we call gaps between the trees/bushes.


If you weren't such a naughty squirel I'd invite you in to see.

Ah yes the gaps in the trees down that side of the park, made it difficult for me to jump from tree to tree, had to scamper along the ground there, and risk being chased by a silly dog :D

garinda 15-10-2005 10:54

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Just been reading about your objections to the '8 metre' high light on Hynburn Life. Since you've now moved, have any of your old squirel friend's lives beeb blighted by this invasion of illumination?

Like I've posted, it's not 8 meters high, and has the illumination of a street light as can be seen from Neils photograph. I'm glad to report that your fears that this light would attract yobs like moths to a flame, has not so far materialised.

park381 15-10-2005 12:36

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Originally Posted by garinda
Just been reading about your objections to the '8 metre' high light on Hynburn Life. Since you've now moved, have any of your old squirel friend's lives beeb blighted by this invasion of illumination?

Like I've posted, it's not 8 meters high, and has the illumination of a street light as can be seen from Neils photograph. I'm glad to report that your fears that this light would attract yobs like moths to a flame, has not so far materialised.

In reply to your first comment, no I have not spoken to any of them, but since the hedges are getting over grown, they won't be able to see it, meaning the light.

Your second comment, no it's not 8M high, and as I have previously posted, the light fixed to the top is not as psecified hence that and the column do not comply with the planning application, this puts HBC in breach of the application, and if the residents so wished HBC could be made to remove the light & column, and install the one detailed in the application. Good job I have moved eh :D


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