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beggars seem to have more scruples than me.:D as fer new shops in ossy Nell, can only suggest do plenty of research, walk n talk to many folk up that way, then ya can make n informed descision, still a buggar,starting a new venture up,but that gives ya better odds.;) good luck.:)

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Although Ossy Mills has created jobs in the town, there isn't any real knock on effect for the rest of Ossy's businesses.

People leave their coaches, or cars, on the carparks, enter the complex, and then leave.

I know quite a few shop owners at the bottom of Ossy, and none of them have ever had an Ossy Mills visitor come to their shop.

I wouldn't really know what to suggest if you're starting a new business, but I wish you luck.:)

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As it happens I've recently conducted a repeat of the Talking Shop project and gone back to the shops I went to two years ago. Makes quite alarming reading with the number of shops that have closed.

I presented my findings to Oswaldtwistle Mills and they are very keen to develop was of getting their customers to look at Ossy as a whole.

If I were to suggest a shop I would suggest that you look at something that is not dependent on passing trade i.e. a destination in its own right. For example the Equine shop, Ball gowns, Weddings, Signs, etc. That way you can market the business beyond the street.

What I would suggest that you avoid is food, general store, clothes or cards as these come and go with great speed.

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Thanks, for some good advice.

I actually went to Ossy Mills first awhile ago but the rent they want and then the commission and tax on top meant that it was impossible for me to do. No wonder they're doing well.

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I think Gayle's is a good idea. Find a specialist area that will attract business to you, rather than relying on passing foot fall, because there isn't that much.

One newish business that is doing well is the music shop. People are prepared to travel to the shop, because there aren't that many, plus he also offers a complimentary service, that of music tuition.

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By the way, I was told last week that soon the Co-op is too be halved in size, and the other half will be a separate concern.

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What is wrong with a gun shop, guns are just a lump of metal and wood, its the idiots behind them that cause the trouble. Guns don't kill people.
People kill people with any thing they can put there hands on.

You cannot uninvent the gun, at least that shop is bound by the Firearms act, and acting within the law.

Its the unregistered firearms you should be bothered about.

People are too ready to accept the medias version of guns, theirs is to sell newspapers and have folks gawping at the tele, truth and facts don't come into it.

I have been around guns for nigh on 60 years, I taught my children to shoot and handle guns safely, so much so, they shamed other members of my club with their knowledge of the safety rules.

Retlaw

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In answer to your question, there's nothing wrong with gun shops.

It's the rather large, illuminated sign, sticking out into the road, advertising the fact, in what is supposedly a conservation area, that was the problem.;)

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I think you've totally misunderstood people's concerns.

They were purely aesthetic.

Just my thoughts...so don't shoot the messenger.:D

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Yes it was only when it became more visible that I started to get bothered by it.

My objections are

1. it doesn't give a friendly impression for visitors - especially being so close to the theatre
2. it's promoting something which young impressionable children might think it glamorous (it's just opposite the bus stop for many of the Rhyddings School crowd)
3. it's an ugly sign in a conservation area


What's really, really annoying me now is that the shop itself has shut down but I spoke to the people at the council and the sign can't be removed. Once it's had planning permission the only person allowed to remove it is the person who has the permission i.e. the owner of the shop. This means that all the reasons that I listed above, which are mostly aesthetic as Garinda pointed out, can't be addressed because no one has powers to remove it.

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GAYLE.....Once it's had planning permission the only person allowed to remove it is the person who has the permission i.e. the owner of the shop.


Surely that cant apply if the shop is sold on ...can it ???

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How it was granted planning permission in the first place is a mystery, in an area the council decided was a conservation area. Shops aren't even allowed to have roll-down security shutters outside their properties.

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bung a chav a tenner if ya want the sign removing.:D simple as.

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For a minute there I thought you meant Chav1 had a gun, and was for hire.:eek::D

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Yep, applies - the owner sells on the planning permission as well so only the owner can take it down even if it's a new owner. It's like if you buy a plot of land where planning permission has already been granted the Council can't take it away.

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Interim Planning permission only has a shelf life of 5 years though, but as you say Gayle once full planning permission is grated it can't be taken away

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never crossed me mind, but good idea, he'll do it fer a Fiver.:D;)

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Hum at that price I could pu some work his way cashy:rolleyes::D

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hmm.....can anyone lend me and emzy a fiver :D

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Yep, just been told the same thing but they didn't seem to know what the other half was going to be. You'd think they'd know.

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Apparently the Co-op just lease the space, the new part will also be available to rent.

Shame really. When it first opened as Gateway, then Somerfield, it was a proper little supermarket, now it'll just be convienence store.

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I don't think it was Somerfield - wasn't it Kwik Save?

But yes, Garinda I take your point, it's just going to be another little shop now.

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No, it was definitely Somerfield's.

You know I'm never wrong....or will at least never admit to it, though I'm right in this case.:D

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I may be tempted to argue with you on this one :D

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can remember it as somerfield, can't remember it as kwik save:confused: was in this aft though n was more in the post office queue than the supermarket.:rolleyes: aint suprised when yer paying £1-30 fer a loaf.:(

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We are right, it was defo Somerfield's.

As a keen recycler I've still got the carrier bags to prove it.:D

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I thought it was Somerfield too, Garinda.

Although I am surprised to hear that the co-op is being halved, it only confirms my suspicions that Oswaldtwistle could not have supported a Tesco had those plans gone ahead.

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I can't remember Somerfield. Perhaps it was Gateway?

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Well to settle the argument i've just email Somerfield's help line! You never know they might just think me daft enough to reply to me.

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It's been both Gateway and Somerfield's before it was the Co-op, or Kwop, as it's known in Ossy.:D

You can tell your a once a week girl in the car.;)

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Tell them you bought some spuds and you think they've gone bad, and want your money back.:D

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I'll have you know that i shop locally more than anything else. It mustn't have been Somerfield for many years - I definitely remember Gateway and i retract the Kwik Save.

As for once in a week in a car, how do you know have you been watching? ;)

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Did I mention shopping?:D

Plus I know you support local shops.:)

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I didn't mention shopping either! ;)

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wouldn't bet on it,but i'm near sure it became Gateway after Somerfield.

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Course we are not going to find out for awhile, seeing as the H.B.C. are way off target on entering their Planning Applications online . !!

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Leave it with me.

Where HBC let you down, I'll be there with my ear to the ground for you.:D

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When was the Co-Op/Chemist building built?.

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Me thinks at the same time :D

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I think it was 1989.

Though it was a Gateway when it first opened, then a Somerfield's, before becoming a Co-op.

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Was before that G. it was there when I moved back to Ossy in 1986

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1986 was my last year at college.

I can't remember it being there then.

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wasn't it also called Solo at one time?

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Says on here the old shops were knocked down in 1979.

Lancashire Lantern | Subjects | Item

If that's right the supermarket wasn't built then.

The corner shop at the top of Cross Street was owned by May, who owned loads of properties, including the 'hotel' on Stonebridge Lane.

I remember buying a painting from her shop, when it was a second hand/antique shop, which I thought was in 1980.

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Yeah, says it was later a Solo on here.

Seems it was cleared in 1980.

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I moved back to Ossy on the 26th March 1986 and can remember going to the supermarket to do the shopping with the wife the same day, that's why I can remember it G

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I'm sure you're right.

Although I was living in Liverpool then, I came back quite often, to get food parcels, but I can't remember going to the Gateway then.

I do remember my Nan thought it was good, having a deli counter, and her taking me there to fill my weekend bag with grub, but I thought it was later, when I was living in London.

Obviously mixed up, date wise.

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They had a very good deli counter

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grocery store!! we need a grocery store so very bad!!!

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After 5-odd years, would be interesting to do it again and compare whats left and whats changed.
Not a job for my knackered old legs though.

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I recently did the trip from black dog to Church commercial hell there's a big difference, I didn't know half the shops Alan

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I've lived in Accy for 5 years and the area for 10, and there has been a hell of a lot of changes in just that small time.

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A greengrocers would be great ! In Spain, when it's not market day, fruit and vegetables are sold from the backs of vans touring the streets - produce is fresh and you don't have to carry it far - perfect! But I'm sure health and safety wouldn't allow it in this country.

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Think you'll find that any Greengrocers/ Butchers, little shops that we all used to rely on haven't a chance now. In the next few years it will hypermarkets or nothing. They may seem cheap now but once they have cornered the market they can charge whatever they like. :mad:

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Got to agree with you there Alan I used to use a greengrocers in Ossy, but it closed a few years ago, people running these shops have to be up about four every morning to get their daily supplies, which must get very tedious after a while, they also used to deliver as well which for me was very handy, but its a sign of the times I suppose

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So, was the Co-op/Chemist built in the early 80's, as a Gateway?.

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It started out as a Gateway don't know what the chemist was think it was cohen's certainly wasn't a coop chemists

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It was Nash Chemist's, right?.

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Ya now I think about it it was Nash Chemists

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How much was that doggy in the window?

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Ya mean the one with the waggly tail G:D

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Was it-
Gateway
Solo
Somerfield
Co-Op

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Who gives a flying;)

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We really do need a post office separate!. Hate the Co-Op one!!!.

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dont disagree, but try telling the royal mail, don't wanna know.

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Royal Mail is publicly owned (as yet) but Post Office Counters Ltd isn't.
Shareholders have priority over customers.:(

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cheers wasn't aware of that,:o though publicly owned dont do us any favours.

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They've only just got rid of two:(

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I think the early 80's Park, as a Gateway:);).

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Did your Mummy tell ya:D

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Equine Direct (old post office opp Oswaldtwistle Clinic) have moved to Oswaldtwistle Mills.

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Might be a reason why.

Business to carry on after Oswaldtwistle car smash (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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Who? Have gone where?

Sorry I'm a stranger around here could you draw me a map?

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That's a bit like sticking him in a barrel and asking him to pee in the corner:rolleyes:

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You can lead a horse to water.

But you can't make it shop at the scene of a road traffic accident.

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A new sandwich bar has opened in Ossy near Town Hall, called Appetites

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Excuse me asking but is this another shop or the same one you've started a thread about, just curios:rolleyes:

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:rolleyes: not seen it.... yet:rolleyes:

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The Shop or the thread

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How many sandwich bars are there in Ossy now ?

They are going to outnumber the real bars . ;)

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Maybe they should rename it Buttytwistle.

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You could open a Wapping branch, I hear a big chunk of land down their has just been put on the market.

Then again you might be better off opening a car park near the TMS building, I suspect parking will soon be a problem.