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Thursday, 15th December 2005
3.45pm - 6.15pm

I'll be in the lounge at the Town Hall in Oswaldtwistle if anyone wants to come along and meet me. As I'm not campaigning yet, I want to hear everyone's views about Oswaldtwistle and about things that they would like to see happen in the town.

A few friendly faces would be welcome. Come along and say hello!

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I'm fully expecting him to send along a 'spy'. Thing is, I just hope somebody turns up or I'll be billy nomates! lol

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Surely not Gayle such an honourable man wouldn't stoop so low (I would though), he will no doubt turn up in person shake you firmly by the hand/neck* and wish you all the best in the forthcoming electoral joust.

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I'm sure he will Less, and I will do likewise and wish him all the best!

Once again, I'm amazed at how you've managed to find such a perfect representation of me! But, in the interests of fairness you really should balance out your posts with some pictures of my opponent, I would hate for people to say that this site is biased!

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Because it is the Christmas season good will to all men and other people etc. just for you Gayle a choice of three you can pick the nearest!

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Seeing as your not campaigning so you don't have to worry about the expense I hope you will be supplying chocolate biscuits with the tea and coffee.

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I do have to be very careful about costs - I might be able to run to plain digestives, as long as you don't mind sharing!

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You need to re think you budget policy. You can't bribe/persuade people to vote for you with plain digestives.

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I didn't know you were so easy, Neil!!!!! If chocolate digestives worked with everyone I'd just buy a packet for each household and be done with the leaflets/campaigning side of things.

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Would your £600 plus 5p for each person on the electoral roll stretch to that?

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I don't know - I don't actually know yet how much my budget will be. It will be announced when I officially step forward for candidacy through the due process early in the New Year.

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When you mentioned money the other day I was interested. The above figures are what I found. Might be out of date now of course.

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In that case, that's going to be really easy to keep under budget - chocolate biscuits it is then!

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How many houses/voters are in St. Andrews? Is it the smallest ward in Ossy?

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Please slow down. Us three were the three names mentioned as being the Ossy mafia who have taken over Accy Web, thus making it not as good as 'the old days'.

Boo hoo.;)

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Neil, there are about 2,000 residences and it's the biggest ward in Ossy.

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Are you talking to me? - said in an American/Italian accent.

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No, I'm too scared in case all our posts intimidate other people from posting.;)

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Neil sits in the corner and stays quiet.......for about 2 seconds

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Just in case anyone is in any doubt about this meet and greet session.

It is an opportunity for people from Oswaldtwistle (St Andrew's Ward) to come along and say hello to me. It's a chance for them to tell me what they would like to see happen in Oswaldtwistle in the future.

I hope to see a few friendly faces there.

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I know St Oswald's is actually the biggest in terms of area - it covers Knuzden and Belthorn and Stanhill areas so if you were on foot it would be a heck of an area to cover.

St Andrew's is mostly made up of terraced houses so is much more compact but I think has the larger population which was what I meant when I called it the biggest.

I'll double check.

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If HBC's web site can be trusted to be correct in 2004
St Andrews 3470
St Oswalds 5201
But yes I agree with you St Andrews could be considered to be "the centre of ossy" people living in Belthorn, Stanhill & Knuzden would only be interested in their own areas and not ossy

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I think peopole who live in Belthorn and Knuzden don't really consider themselves to be part of Hyndburn, let alone Ossy.

I'm always willing to be corrected when I'm wrong.

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You are right there gayle, when we moved out of "ossy" I made contact with HBC to see which Area Council we came under....Oswaldtwistle was the reply. Seems silly, we have a Blackburn post code, and the phone is connected to the Blackburn exchange, but we are still in Hyndburn :confused:
but only yards from the border/boundry.

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So are you in St Oswalds ward?

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I was going to pop in honest Gayle, when I went for the Observer, but I'm bad today and it a'int pretty.

Hope it went well.

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:rolleyes: aahhh so that's the reason the traffic was so busy just now round the Town Hall. I spotted a couple of coaches too, were they there for your meet and greet too Gayle? :D

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I am sorry to hear that mate. Just a little observation for you, you a'int ever pretty :)

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Well it went ok - didn't get a huge turn out but then again I didn't expect a huge turnout. Big topics for debate actually turned out to be the light in Rhyddings Park and of course, parking along Union Rd.

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What was the feed back from the light? Good or bad?

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Bad. Said it attracted groups of youths like moths to a flame!

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Lol. The Park Lane brigade still at it:)

Well from what we've seen there is less loitering, and although there is still some vandalism, the playground is in a hell of a lot better state for the children than when it was hidden away under the trees behind the Stop and Rest.

Perhaps that's why I'm having trouble sleeping? Although Mum lives facing the park, I live half a mile away. Can light travel downhill and round corners?;)

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At the last Friends meeting someone asked if the clock could be reset on the light because it now goes off one hour earlier than before the clocks changed. He stated that with the light going off early more people are congregating around the playground. A couple of members of the neighbourhood watch said there were less numbers around the play area than before the light. Personally I would like to see the whole park lit along the paths etc. I am very concerned about the safety of people walking their dogs during darkness, which is very early at this time of year.
Did the people you spoke with have any ideas for an improvement Gayle? What about CCTV on the play area? The bowling green is now covered by CCTV.
I was talking with our local police beat manager last Sunday, he informed me he has made several arrests in the park over the last few weeks. Not only local Oswaldtwistle youths but also some from Clayton-le-Moors.

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The lighting of the whole of the park was one of my questions to PB when the single light was first discussed. I would hope that it would be included in any park refurbishment.
The bowling green, given the light levels in that area, and knowing they are using the same kit as the RPNHW, don't think the CCTV will be any good at night.
If the light in the play area is attracting groups of youths like moths to a flame, then it's having the result the residents of park lane said it would.
On a technical point regarding "the light" it is not the type or size of column that HBC applied for in the planning application.
Oh on a point of interest the street lighting for park lane used to be "in the park" along side the bottom path.

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The cameras on the bowling green look different to me. I will PM you.

From the comments I am getting it would appear there is a difference in opinion on that.

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Sorry I.m new.Was'nt aware of this thread. RIDICULOUS......Nobody turned up to meet and greet Gayle, yet my old Aunt told me that when Britcliffe visited her estate the other day the whole estate seemed to turn out to meet him. Anyway, Don.t let the buggars get you down. Take a rest.a step back and have a good 'un.;) ;)

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I wish I had an old Aunt with a large estate.

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The light is not attracting more people to congregate at the play area, but less. As you know we have a very good vantage point and are happily monitering the situation for you now you've moved.

I do agree that more lighting on the paths but would make it safer. The whole reason the light works at the play area is because they can be seen if they are up to mischief, this sadly wouldn't be the case if it was put on the bowling greens.

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What a bizarre thing to post. Either you were there and know how many people turned up, in which case you can't say that nobody turned up, or you weren't there and would have no idea how many people turned up.

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This person mentions PB in a few of his posts.:eek:

Not a lil mole?

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I noticed that as well mate. Looks like we were both reading all of his 4 posts. He mentions him in 3 of his 4 posts. Maybe it is Peter himself :D

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Perhaps if he'd have a fag he'd have realised one of the posts was in the wrong place.;)

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Don't get your feathers roughled, I was having a drink last night and a bloke who works for HBC just mentioned that not many people turned up, seems a shame when you made such an effort

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I was only quoting gayles comments from her meet & greet session, it would still seem there is a slight difference of opinion on this issue.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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So do you work for HBC or are involved with them?

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Hi, I,m Jaysay. Middle Class, Right wing bolshevik, retired and interested spectator of aall that goes on in the Borough.That includes some of the daft nonsense I sometimes read on this site.


Judging from his introduction he just may.:)

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So you can see over buildings, and round corners (thought I had replied to this one earlier ah well must be my age)
From your mothers you would get a good view of the top of the lighting column, unless of course you were upstairs stood on a chair :)

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Since I know for a fact Mummy has never had you in, it gives me great pleasure to inform you there is a very good view of the playground from the sittingroom, and the view from upstairs is even better.

No chair, or bouncing on the bed needed.:D

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No there are what we call 'gaps' between the rhododenrons, giving a clear uninterupted views of the play area.:D

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???????????????????????

I've no need to lie you plonker.


We can sit on the sofa and see quite clealy the play area. Which I'm pleased to report is now mainly filled with children enjoying the equipment, which they couldn't before when it was under the trees and hidden away, and very often vandalised so there wasn't a single thing for the children to play on.

Since you no longer live near the park, I really don't see what you have such a bee in your bonnet about.

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Your argument may have been better if the photograph had actually been taken from the play area, rather than taken from above it.

I'm not getting into an argument with you about this again, we've been here many times before.

I think the play area is in a much safer, less dark place, and also less prone to vandalism, where the children can play safely in the sunshine. You and some of your friends do not, for whatever reason, though the main argument seems to be that it has spoilt their view, which to me seems rather a selfish reason. The park is for everyone to enjoy.

End of my case. There will be no further discussion from me on this subject.

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Who are you calling a plonker, if you are refering to me then please retract the statement.
I do not have a "bee" in my bonnet as you indicate, just interested as to the outcome of the whole thing :cool:

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Bloomin' Hell, I wasn't going to carry this on. I called you a plonker for trying to make out I was fibbing when you posted that photograph, supposedly showing that we couldn't see the play area.

Don't squirels ever hibernate?:D

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Thought it was a discussion not an argument
I will agree with you on that point
Have nothing to say on that score other than "good" :D :D

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Have nothing to say on that score other than "good" :D :D [/quote]

Good.:)

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Good.:)[/quote]
Are you having a bad day :confused:

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That's nice I didn't know squirels could eat dropped childrens sweets.

I hope they don't give you the squirel squits.:p

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To anyone trying to follow this ramble round the park, I've just had a pm informing me that Park381 has removed his photograph, which I didn't ask him to do.

That's squirels and logic for you.;)

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For anyone interested in a stroll round the park........see this thread
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=9944

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No I said the picture you posted was fine, just that it didn't prove your point as it was taken from above the play area, thus still not proving that we could not in fact see the play area from my Mother's house, which we can.

I pm'd you asking not to post anymore photographs which might identify her home. She has enough trouble with squirels peering in, never mind anyone else.:D

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Lets get this correct, your first PM
To which I replied sorry, I will remove it.
I hope that clears the matter up. :rolleyes:

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No that pics ok, I just didn't want one showing her house that people could work out exactly where she lived.
Cheers.

The above reply was my pm in return to yours, quite clearly stating I had no objection to the picture you attached to your post, I just didn't want anymore that did show her house.

Are you this bumptious at home? If you are I may well have to pop over to the Knuzden area with a gold medal for Mrs Squirel, she must deserve it.:)

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First I must say sorry to gayle, sorry for taking the thread over or as Less would say thread wandering.

No my good lady of 40+years is happy with the way I am, as are all my friends. A spade is a spade is the old saying.

All the attached pics were sent through to HBC reminding them of their duty under H&S regulations during the "building of the play area"

:banlama: :banlama:

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Photograph one shows me sitting on the sofa, and Mum brushing her hair upstairs. We have an even better view from the actual site of the play area, rather than just below it, from where the photograph was took from.:)

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Apology accepted. It just shows what a contentious issue this still is for some people.

Thing is, I think the people who I spoke to would probably be happy if the trees were blocking off the light a bit because it does shine in to their house. Perhaps some lleylandi (or however it's spelt) might just be the simple answer.

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Lol, good idea. Screen off Park Lane with fast growing conifers.

Problem solved.;)

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As per my previous post, the light and column are not the same as the one HBC applied for planning permission for, and as such HBC could be made to remove it, and replace it with the approved light and column. Had I still been living on park lane then I would have contacted the " Planning Enforcement Officer" about the problem.

There was an agreement with PB and one of HBC's parks persons to plant some shrubs in front of the play area when it was first installed. HBC in fact issued a small drawing showing the shrubs.

HBC's planning officer in his/her summing up of the planning application for the light refered to the play area as " the unfortunate siting of the play area on the brow of a hill"

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Next time you are door knocking Gayle ask them to show you how bright it is sat in their front room. It can't be any worse than having a street light outside your house. I have a couple of street lights outside my house and light the fact we are well lit.

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Neil, even if I were to go into their front room and see what the light is like, what they perceive as a problem and what I perceive of it may be two different things - as is shown by Park and Garinda's differing views on the brightness of the light in the first place. The thing is that if a few leylandii and/or bushes blocking the light off from them solves the problems without upsetting anybody else then it's a good compromise.

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Why would you want it dark and inviting to burglars outside your house?

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Perhaps the little squirel doesn't want people to see his nuts.

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Why would you want a dog. All they do is eat and sh*te :rolleyes:. I can't understand why anyone would want to walk behind a dog picking up its dirt.

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At least you always got a welcome with a dog, no matter what time it was. No longer keep one :D :D :D

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the whole estate! wow!! gardener, gamekeeper, chauffer. Did the Butler come out to!