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Perhaps that's what people want. After all most people do a weekly shop at the supermarket instead of supporting small independents.

We can't really complain, when once thriving town centres are places little more than highstreets full of estate agents and hairdressers, and not a green grocers or butchers to be seen.

Re: Now you see it, now you don't.
 

Perhaps that's what people want. After all most people do a weekly shop at the supermarket instead of supporting small independents.

We can't really complain, when once thriving town centres are places little more than highstreets full of estate agents and hairdressers, and not a green grocers or butchers to be seen.

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Perhaps that's what people want. After all most people do a weekly shop at the supermarket instead of supporting small independents.

We can't really complain, when once thriving town centres are places little more than highstreets full of estate agents and hairdressers, and not a green grocers or butchers to be seen.

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You could be right there, but is it to late to save Accrington centre. I have just been looking at a planning application on HBC's website it was
"change of use from retail shop to Amusement Centre"
where - 44 Broadway Accrington
Think that says it all eh !!

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Well whilst you were shopping in Accrington centre you could always call in at the proposed Amusement Centre on Broadway at no 44.
Listed as a planning application on HBC's website " change of use from retail shop to Amusement Centre" and you talk about nails in coffins :rolleyes:

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I've seen it happen in the towns ouside London.

Places like Brentwood in Essex. Twenty years ago it had the requisite butcher, baker and candlestick maker. Now they just have estate agents, mainly due to the success of the relatively nearby Bluewater shopping mall.

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Its happening now on Broadway one of Accy's main shopping street, before there is any additional development at the retail park.

There is some one out there that thinks he/she will make more money changing the use of a shop on Broadway from retail to Amusements

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....and what do we get in Accrington?

More propsed retail spaces near Scaitcliffe House, whilst we still have newly built empty shops on Broadway.

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May I add to that one as well, the development near or behind Scaitcliffe House, was posted in the observer as not fitting in with HBC's plan for the area, mind they (HBC) are good at U turns.

Look at the Earl Transport saga, first HBC turn the application down because of the noise element, then when it comes up before the planning for a 2nd time they give it the yes, and 24 hour operating at that.

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Don't forget all the shops in Ossy where you can get a tan (now that you can't get an all-over orange from the brook anymore). We moan about not having such shops, but it is largely our fault - we chose to shop at the supermarkets, to the detriment of the little shops, and now we are paying the price. There are only two butchers in Ossy now, and how many of us use them? - or just nip down to Asda or the market? I must admit I use the market but I do make a point of using my local butcher for some things. The market is a great resource for meat, fruit and vegetables, cheese, etc, most of which I'd rather get from there than some faceless supermarket. The shopping experience takes longer, but is far better, because there are all the stallholders to chat to. There used to be a thriving fishmarket, but now there are only two fish stalls - because people stopped buying. If we want little shops, we have to be prepared to use them, rather than save a bit by going to the supermarket.