Young tearaways around the Roegreave Rd area
 

Hi everyone

Has anyone noticed the increase in teen gangs/hoodies, most notably around the Roegreave Rd area. They seem to plague the Rhoden pub area, causing damage to cars and property. My car was scratch down the side, and the Rhoden pub had a window smashed. Is there anything that can be done to stop these little buggers?

Yours

citizenx

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yes but its not legal.........

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Vigilantes!! :hidewall:

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A good slap!!, but as magpie states, its not legal, thats why the little idiots do what they do!!!!

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I agree that there should be punishment, but unfortunately giving a young kid a smack will probably get you locked up, and put a a child abuse register. I also found out yesterday who scratched my car, its two young brothers who live on Rowan Avenue, but I have no direct evidence to do anything. I think the area should introduce a more active neighbourhood watch scheme.

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Well you could ask the police to give them an ASBO each, aka the thugs medal of honour, but apart from a double barreled Purdy your snookered behind the 8 ball:mad:

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Or,

If you feel,

Then, you could start a more active Neighbourhood watch scheme or if one already exists join it, without help we all go nowhere. The Council can give you advice,
Neighbourhood Management - How can I help Neighbourhood Management?

For example.

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Thanks Less for the information. I'll have a look website and see what I can do.

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I'm angry. I've just been out for an hour with a few mates, decided to come home early. And guess what! As I walked up the street, some bloody kids are throwing stones at a neighbours house! its the same kids that scratched my car. I heard a few of the kids/thugs names, now I going to try and find their parents.

yours

cx

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i'll start a collection for the grapes when we visit you in hospital.

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Ring the police.........Its not your job to tackle the problem head on.

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Thanks emamum for the thought, red seedless grapes please.

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Is that the group of tearaways that are causing trouble on Tinkerbrook Close?
I have noticed that there are several properties for sale there

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Last time we were over, we had just left the Ossy con about 11:30 and were walking down Rhyddings St and I had a feeling there was someone behind us, I spun around to see a lad of about 15 coming up with a bottle in his hand about two steps away. I shudder to think what would have happened if I hadn,t turned around, as it was he just swung away and rejoined a couple of other kids on the other side of the road.

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I've heard for ages that people are getting so sick of young thugs in Ossy and nothing being done about it, so much so that is talk of taking things into there own hands, can't say that this is the right way to go about things, but its been said before desperate times bring on desperate measures

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We should take things into our own hands.. the flipping police and other powers that be are totally useless:
I thought there was something in place to move large groups on…. Having said that they then go onto the back streets:
I talked to the community useless warden… he’s not even got power of arrest, what’s his roll just another waste of money: Kids were playing football near to my van the ball hit the van and the fourth time I went out and told them to ( GO AWAY ) this being a family site and all:
I told the warden and ( butter me toast ) next time I looked he was having a kick around with them ( bonding is what the useless teapot called it )
The country is going down hill…. And we all put up with it:

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I moved back into Ossy 6 years ago and where I live there was a problem one or two nights a week with gangs of rowdy drunken teens gathering at the football changing hut and sometimes vandalising it.
The hut was removed a year ago and the problem went with it.

I read about them congregating at the War memorial for a time, and that was stopped by that exclusion zone which was applied to a stretch of Union Rd.

It seems they need 'assembly places' - If you live near one it makes living there miserable at times.

The only consolation I can offer is that they do eventually grow up, and the next lot like to create a new assembly point as an expression of their new found group identity.

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I've just been to see the police, but unfortunately they can't do very much apart from sending a squad car every so often. I spoke to my neighbour and he is fuming because of all the dents the stones have made to his car.
I have also sent an email to Hyndburn's Antisocial Behaviour Officer detailing the problem.

I don't mind kids having fun, but when they start doing criminal damage to property, I think some type of action should be taken.

By the way the gang roams around Trinity Street and Roegreave Rd area of Oswaldtwistle. The kids seem to be very close to feral children than normal children.

It's also good to know that other people are supportive of cracking down on these little buggers.

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Its an easy answer ain't it, we'll send a squad car round every so often, big deal, if you belted one of the rat bags round the ear with a baseball bat the area would be flooded with cops:mad:

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Once did grab one of the little buggers round here and told him to 'go and damage his own house' after the umpteenth time of throwing things at the windows and graduating to flying kicks at the door. Got a visit from the coppers who basically told me the little sods mum had complained and wanted me done!
He then went on to inform me that he had managed to get the lad to own up to the anti-social behaviour, which came as a surprise to mum, who promptly grounded him after a clip round the ear :D
Copper just said - "here's my number, if he does it again just ring me and I'll deal with it"
Haven't had any trouble since though....:rolleyes:

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Its always the same churchman "its not my little jonny, he's a little angel, honest", as for grounding him, don't think so, she probably told the little irk not to kick your door again:D

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my mum and dad actually live next door to two of the thugs and upto till recently was making their lives hell. now my mum is disabled so there is a ramp instead of a garden so she can get in and out of the house and them brothers and their so-called friends have ruined it my parents have complained to their mother (father not on scene) but she has done nothing about it

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What would you suggest we did with them and where do you want to move them on to?

Should we provide somewhere for them in suitable places - the Police think so, they know where to find them then.

Most of them are just bored with nothing to do. What sort of age are these children you are talking about.

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Oh come on Neil, that's wearing a bit thin, I spent around 4 years with the Ossy Youth Support Group campaigning and raising money for the Youth and Community Centre that now stands on Harvey Street, and I still see the Youth Leader Martin a couple of times every month, in fact he was at my gaffe yesterday. Its the same old story you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. I had a lot of time on my hands when I was in my early teens as most people of my age group on here did, but we didn't go round creating havoc, we made our own entertainment, which didn't stem to getting blind drunk vandalism and generally make a nuisance of ourselves, but the one difference with today's kids is they don't respect any sort of authority, be it at home, school, or the police and until we get back to those basics of respecting authority nothing is ever going to change

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I don't think it is wearing a bit thin at all. I agree with the lack of respect thing though. Unfortunately that is down to the parents and not the kids. They are doing what they have learnt at home. They have not been taught respect so they don't give it.

So did you ask Martin what he thinks the solution is?

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Its like I said in my earlier post Neil, you can take the horse to the water, but you can't make it drink, Martin puts his heart and soul into the job of trying to provide activities for young people, but if they would rather(aided and abetted in a lot of cases by their parents) get rat asses in Rhyddings Park at night instead of finding something better to do there is nothing anyone can do about it. Like you said parents have got to educate their children to what is right and what is wrong, but when parents are dropping their kids off at the bottom of Rhyddings Street on Friday night armed with a six pack of Special Brew, whilst they go out on the razzle, your kicking up hill, to say the least, and this does happen, I've seen it with my own eyes. When I was young I used Rhyddings Park nearly every night, that's where I hung out, but I didn't cause any damage and the only time I went in there in winter was with the girlfriend;)

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Well said Jaysay.

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Make the parents pay!;)

If my kid did wrong and i had to pay for the consequences, im sure id be pretty miffed!:rolleyes:

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agree totally, if some cannot be bothered to teach kids respect, then let em pay the price,:(

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There has been a new development un the technology of the Mosquito teen repellet
The MOSQUITO - Ultrasonic Teenage Youth Deterrent, Teen Tormentor
At £400 a time they are beyond the reach of most BUT....

The noise has been made into a phone ringtone so that the little terrors can phone each other in class without teacher hearing.
http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/de...t_news_99.html

SO - it should be possible to download it to a PC and play it full blast without annoying neighbours :D

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I thought some do gooders had decided these Mosquito devices were a breach of the childrens human rights

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Yes - the models produced now have variable pitch so that they don't discriminate - whether you set it at the pitch for teens or for all is up to you :D

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clip round the ear with a wet rag would be better........

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The only trouble with that magpie is you end up worse of than the little brats who are causing the trouble:(

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Just buy a cat repelent thingy...my daughter swears she can hear them, so did another teenager, she didint even know about it, she asked what the noise were, to which i couldnt hear, then realised that a neighbiour was showing us one and turned it on!!, my daughter had to walk away as the noise was annoying her...lol

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Just love your family panther:D

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LOL, notice that im the 'smart' one:D

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Thank god for that would have hatted you to be the dumb one:D

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My daughter says the same.... pity they can't hear "turn your music down or clean your room ":hothothot

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well im 32 now and to be honest i think things where a hell of a lot worse back when i was 14. the increase in cctv, community programs, community wardens and police patrols have made a reduction. i think some of us have a clouded memory when we think back. what i find strange is that there has been an increase in teenage ganga hanging around rhoden and trinity street ever since the tinkerbrook new builds where built, coincidence? heaven forbid if these so called "feral" kids came from good homes.

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A very good honest first post. It is usual for new members to post a hello thread in the introductions section. Welcome to the forum.

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I always understood the term 'good homes' to mean the child was well cared for.

It has nothing at all to do with the type of home the child lives in.

There are good and bad parents living in every type of house, be it a humble dwelling or a mansion.

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Spot on Rindi, I saw one couple dropping off their little darling at the bottom of Rhyddings Street one Friday night, the kid was armed with a six pack of Special Brew and the Parents were off for their night out in their series 7 BMW dressed to the nines, safe in the knowledge that their child was out of their hair for the night and somebody else's problem:mad:

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:D

well im using the companys pc so i thought id save time and just post :D

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very good point but many many parents belive that being a good parent is giving there child what they ask for/want. now to me that isnt right i think it has bred a generation of children who are selfish, arrogant, cocky and belive that they dont have to work hard for waht they get.
also most familys have both parents working and let there teenagers look after themselves while they work.
maybe if the cost of living wasnt so high we could all get back to some good family morals and maybe in a generation or two we will have kids that are respectful again.

p.s

i find most adults just as bad as kids.

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'both parents working' is a situation which has been common in Lancashire since the Industrial revolution. My mother worked in t'mill and her mother before that.
It is not mothers working that appears to be the problem, but rather what happens to that extra income.

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Very valid point, and I've made it myself before.

The vast majority of families in this part of the world had women who went out to work in t'mills.

Nothing to do with female liberation, or modern society, just a fact.

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I can always remember my Mother working from when I was very small, its rather a lame excuses citing the high cost of living for feral kids. If kids are brought up right and taught the wrongs and rights at an early age, then they will grow into respectable adults themselves and bring up their kids in the same way. Its only when parents don't give a stuff what there children are doing when they are out of their sight, is where the trouble starts and providing kids with booze while they go out on the razz isn't the answer:(

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well yes, i remember my mum working too but she was always there when i went to school and when i got home, that is the difference nowadays

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mine worked full time, but i stayed at me nans monday- friday, its absolute cobblers blaming - both parents working.

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I agree it is not because the parents work - it's just because they are bad parents.

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The thing is Neil, where both parents in the house worked then nine times out of ten the kids turned out right, the problems are the same now as went we were young, kids from families were parents did't work and did't give a damn what their off springs are doing are usually the ones causing the trouble, it was in my youth can't think its any different today

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So do you think the kids of parents who don't work are all angels then?

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Well they do say kids learn of their parents.....:rolleyes:
lazy parents, lazy kids!..gobby parents...gobby kids....

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Can't really understand your meaning Neil, didn't say that, I said that Kids usually take after their parents, which is something of a recognised fact

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just because a parent doesnt work doesnt mean that they dont care what their kids are doing... there a re a few single parents on here that arent working and they are good parents.

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Sorry ema but single parents are working, we are talking about families where neither parents work by choise, and their kids usually follow in their footsteps

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Talk to kids in the way you expect them to talk to you and you may find nice friendly human beings try it nxt time it may just work:tongueout

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As a vulnerable over 60 person, I wont take the risk.
If I was a 6ft tall muscly body builder I would:D

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'does anyone know of a kick boxig club for kids or any such club that will give my child help with bad behaviour .ty'
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post643026

Thanks for the tip about dealing with young people.

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So the mummy's little darling syndrome is revealed yet again :D
....as first demonstrated by Mrs Kray

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Haha, nice one you two! Parents working isnt the problem imo, at this moment (in the rain) and similar to last night, there are youngsters outside right now, making more noise than enough, the parents are never heard telling them off for it, or calling them in for bed, you only hear the parents shouting when the children are under THIER feet! :rolleyes:

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i always address young uns as i would anyone else, some are polite n friendly some are pig ignorant, but i don't believe in fairies.:rolleyes:

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I do the same thing and find them very aproachable. I think it is the way you speak to them, just like anyone else, that depends on the response you get.

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perhaps it depends on what environment ya speak to em in neil?

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I'm not using a mouthful of four letter obscenities for you are nobody else:rolleyes:

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You can be sure it won't be sat round the bowling green in Rhyddings Park at 10-30pm on a friday night cashy:rolleyes:

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As we have mentioned a number of times it's all down to a lack of respect and discipline.
Where do the young get guidance from these days? Not parents,not school,not the police ,nor in youth clubs.
The teachers are hamstrung by the rules they have to abide by,the police ditto.Youth workers have a brief to engage the youngsters and not be judgemental.
All this combines to give the message that there are no boundaries; yob rule is ok!
Perhaps we should start again with the schools being the first target,reinstate discipline backed up by sensible school governors.
Human nature makes us challenge authority,but in the end we have to live within a lawful state.
Some kids develop into model adults,some regretably don't.
If all they have to guide them is the behaviour of their peers then the situation will continue to degenerate.
Do parents know or care what little Wayne and Waynette are up to when they are out and about?
Take a walk around any area after dark,do you feel secure?
Time for a rethink.
Rant over!:rolleyes:

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Not much wrong with your assessment Lampman, but as much as I'd like to see a return to old values, it ain't going to happen, there are to many do gooders now who's philosophy is that kids should be respected, in my day kids were respected but they first had to earn that respect. Having said that not all kids are bad, but they are all tared with the same brush, unfortunately