Grafitti around Ossy
 

I have noticed lately a new 'tag' around Ossy. It's getting very annoying as the clever little darling is 'tagging' pretty much everything that stands still at the moment.

If I found someone who had been grafitti-ing anywhere I would ask them to let me borrow their best jacket and I would spray my 'tag' on the back of it. If they want to ruin other people's property and belongings then they deserve the same in return.

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If you name the tag name here someone's child will know who the tagger is

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I'd give them their own special tag... an electronic one :)

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Is it this one Gayle?

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...d-ossy-tag.jpg

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Yes it is - and it's almost always in day-glo pink, green or blue.

I've had it removed from post boxes - because I know how to contact them - but it's places like that that I have no idea who to contact.

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As it's an old Nynex box, I would guess you contact Virgin Media now.

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I wonder if this works Virgin Media Box Graffiti - Viewing a problem - FixMyStreet

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It seems like a good idea but I suspect that the Council won't be able to do anything about that one because it's not there property.

But I love the website - it's a good one to know.

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Maybe HBC can't do anything about it but if they care about the appearance of our town I would expect them to forward it on to the correct people.

Add some more to the site for others you have seen and we will see if HBC do anything about the reports.

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Wouldn't be so bad if the prat was an artistle, but its like a dog peeing in the snow:(

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Nevermind 'tag' the culprit's jacket. If the little toe rag is caught they should tattoo the thing on his forehead.

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Here here.....:mad: more than likely the scum bags that hang out on union road: called the police the other night but they were too busy to come out:

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Ya magpie, but if you motor down Union Road at 37mph they'd be there in no time, with a ticket and three point penalty:(

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And rightly so, its 30mph through Ossy :rolleyes:

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we now have the mini motor bikes out.... not a copper in sight... but when one of the idiots gets killed or injured it will be Poor Kid: if parents are going to buy these, then the least they can do is make sure they know where their little darlings are using them:

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Did you call the Police?

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No point they're all learning to climb ladders Neil:rolleyes:

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I take it you think training on the workplace is not required and we should go back to employing kids in the mills? Then again you are a Tory so being uninterested in the working man is a life long quest :eek::p:D

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Not at all Neil It was one once;) as were my Father and his Father before him, but come on Neil there is safety and safety, they just treat every body as morons, health and safety is 10% knowledge 90% common sense, these clowns cause more accidents than they prevent and receive telephone number salaries for doing it:rolleyes:

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out in full force in ossy last night.... the scum bags that is ( not the police ) glass bottles all over the place near where I live... loads of fights : what joy at christmas... they ought to make the scum clean up on Boxing day....
I guess a lot of areas are the same...

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I thought they had been made illegal?, them little motorbikes

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They are legal if you have the land owners permission to ride on his land.
Illegal on the street as they are not road legal - if they were would need to be MOT'd, insurance, road tax etc

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Has anyone else used this site to report anything? I had an email from Hyndburn BC as a response from my report to that site. I will wait and see if anything happens now. It would be nice if HBC were inundated with email from fixmystreet reporting graffiti and other problems. It would make Hundburn look bad nationally and may make them take some action.

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Prabably make no difference to them, as they'd hope no one knew where it was.:p


Much more effective if it was called Acc....oh, nevermind.:D

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I went for a long walk with friends yesterday and the final bit of it ended up with us walking down from Stanhill along the main road. I took photos of all the graffiti on route and so I'll send it them in over the next few days.

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are you doing one submission for each?

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Did try it once Neil, to report some fly tipping across the lodge from me. Got confirmation had been passed on to the appropriate authority.

Then few months later, E-Mail asking if any action had been taken ... had to reply not up-to-date. Still no action, that was in November 2005. :rolleyes:

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about as much use as a "Fart In A Spacesuit" then.:rolleyes:

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I don't believe you lot, why not pick the bloody phone up and ring your Councillor your always complaining they do nout, give um sunat ta do:p
you can even pm one or two on here:rolleyes:

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Anyone seen the DJ Lesbian grafitti signs up and down Ossy?

Absolutley hillarious! - Grafitti is an artform.

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Performed by witless idiots, at a cost of thousands to Te council tax payer

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I agree some of the graffiti can be very artistic if done properly
But most of it is just vandalism

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Just been down union road and the box at the bottom of new lane has been designed with pink grafiti .
Also the new shutters on Choens chemist have got a racist sign written on them why that i dont know.
Also Union Road pavement is full of take away cartons just thrown all over the pavement . where do these people come from there are bins on all the lamp post for such rubish time someone did something about this .

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Banksy has a lot to answer for. Whilst I appreciate his artistry, he has inadvertently given our young people the message that it is OK to do it.

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Banksy is a crap artist, according to one or two "Real Artists" i have spoken to, probably why he paints walls or buildings, cos no one would buy his junk.:rolleyes: n to those who think its artistic, ya wouldn't if your street/area was full of graffiti. get real.:mosher:

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The chemist also had graffiti on about the supposedly murdered man, and the fact that it was his mother he raped.

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well said, some of the people are only expressing how they feel, i think they should be able to do that somewhere they wont get 'done' for it

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How about on their own property?

They never seem to want to tag their own front door.

Odd that.:rolleyes:

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Some of his work is amusing, in the style of social comment as cartoonists do
Banksy - Outdoors
The examples in that link show that.
I agree that graffiti is undesirable and the fact that many people like his provides an excuse for vandals.

I wasn't claiming that it is 'fine art' - but what constitutes that is a matter of personal preference. I don't find dead sheep artistic - some do

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i know i know, you know i aint making excuses for them

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tag's are not art just vandalism.

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Iv noticed this same pink grafitti is around town in accy too!!

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well yer signature is pink panther.:D;)

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ok ok ok. What consitutes as real art? does it end at oil paintings??? boooooorrring.
There was graffiti before banksy and there will be graffiti after banksy. To blame him is rediculous. And in fairness, most of the kids probably dont even know who he is.
To answer the question - where do these people come from? most probably the same place as you.
Granted, the pink tags are unattractive. But i believe most of you wouldnt know what a good peice of graffiti was if i scraped your face across it.
I think most of you are probly old timers that are completly out of touch with the youth. And i suspect most of you associate hip hop culture with crime.
It kind of defeats the object to do it on your own property.
A legal wall would be a great idea, but i doubt it would solve the "problem".

Whats the difference between a tag and the classic "jack heart's stacy" carved into a tree etc?

Anyway. Don't get me wrong, i think those pink tags are an eyesore too but i suspect your collective dismay runs deeper than just the appearance of it.

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We end up paying more council tax because it costs to remove it.:mad:

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you should try your hand at it then, seeing as your paying for it. ;)

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no. I must make clear. I think vandalism is a terrible terrible thing. But i just resent the common belief that all graffiti is catagorically not art.

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All unwanted graffiti on private property is not art and it is not wanted. I have no problem with legal walls either

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Alot the graffiti is commited on public property? hehe. sorry.

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All property is owned by somebody - what you call public property belongs to us - the majority of us prefer it not to be adulterated

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well then please enlighten us with your artistic credentials,if ya have any. there may well be old timers on here that have em.its nothing to do with youth, cretins can be any age. you seem to suspect how people think, i suspect about you, but will save it until ya give just cause.;)

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Do I NEED credential's?


Not to say that I don't have any. But I fail to see the importance.

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I take it you are one of the ones that do it then.

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haha. I can see why you might think that. . No, i wouldnt dare. If my mother ever caught wind of it. . . .

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as you seem to think we are mostly old timers, that are completely out of touch with youth, n associate hip hop culture with crime, one with a head your size, must have credentials.:rolleyes:

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haha. I like you.

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good man have some karma.:D

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King grubb - I'm an "old timer" and I think Banksy is great - but stick your own graffiti on your walls and we'll come and judge it there - if your mum lets you !

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Sorry about the old timers comment. terribly disrespectfull i know. Not gonna help me if i want to make people take my point seriously is it?

Anyway. Shall we settle on a more pleasant term for such people? no. lets not pigeon hole people.

Sorry everyone.

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Would you like to suggest a term? I don't know what "such people" as you put it call themselves. They get pigeon holed as youths but I would like to know how they see themselves and how they would classify themselves.

Might be a hard question because I am not sure how I would classify myself.
I am 39 with a wife and 5 children, 2 of them from a previous marriage who are a little older than my last 3. I work and and get involved with community projects.

Most people class me as a sarcastic bar steward, which fits quite well really ;)

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No. I have the feeling im treading on thin ice as it is!!

For fun I would say maybe - youthfully challenged. Kind of has two meanings I suppose.

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I get called 'grumps' and 'harbinger of doom' but I am an optimist really.
The persona projected here is not neccessarily the whole true personality.

PS - I am not a Norah Batty lookalikie

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Ha Ha, Brilliant!! Pleased to E-Meet you Margaret!

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I'd be more than happy to debate whether graffiti, as examplified most notably Jean-Michel Basquiat, and of late by the Bristol public school art terrorist Banksy, is a continuation of the idea that anything can be art. A philosophy first aired by Duchamp's sculpture of a urinal at a exhibition in 1917, and an idea that was further expanded by the Dadaists.

A tag is not art, in my opinion.

It has no relevance other than to the talentless person who did it.

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And so you should be, I'm one of a few old timers that worked heir fingers to the bone to get the Youth and Community Centre on Harvey Street, about 5 years to be precise, and I'm still involved today, but sometimes I wonder why we ever bothered

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Yeah, I know. Which is why I apologised. Thanks for the comfirmation though ;)

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And by the way. I respect the work you have done. Working with/for the kids is more often than not a thankless task and you should be applauded.

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I had also noticed the recent increase in graffiti, a friend have mine has a relative whos Motorhome was "tagged" £400 repair bill.

Graffiti never seems to get removed, i know several places where "friends" (i use the term loosely as i hardly speak to them anymore and didnt like them that much in the first place) tagged in 2005, and the graffiti is still there now.

As for the subject of if graffiti is art are not that that totally depends on where it is and what it is, in my opinion anything sprayed on public or private property without permission is vandalism, however i must admit a few of banksys peices really impressed me. Aslong as its done with permission, isnt racist sexist or offensice in any other way and is more creative than "scott woz ere buzzin 2k8" then yeah it could be nominated as being art.

And just to make a point that not everyone on here is how you imagined, i'm 21 and VERY into hip-hop music. I would also regard myself as being fairly in touch with the youth of today (but truth be told i think the majority of them are a complete waste of space:rolleyes:).

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You heard it here first.

Article in the Observer today.

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Probably prompted the Observer to do the story Gayle:rolleyes:

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I can't see it on the Observer website so I can be corrected -
If the paper has printed a photo of the tag it may well lead to the identification of the culprit, but on the other hand, other little tykes will do it for publicity/notoriety too

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I laughed when i read it and thought exactly the same!!

Accy observer are spying on us:eek:

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The only trouble is that the little tow rag will probable be walking round Ossy bragging to his mates and showing of. If they ever catch the waster, I'd make him/her go round the town and clean up all the mess he/she has made, maybe then there will be a little thought before he/she thinks about doing it again

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with todays kids jaysay, i very much doubt it:(

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Did you mean with todays parents? ;)

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Oh I don't know panther, when they know that they are going to spend hour after hour removing their handy work and whats more not getting paid for it, think they may just say sod this for a game of soldiers:rolleyes:

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Well, Burnley is doing it Jaysay, but agree with some of the comments that they should have paid the fine too, and access to the public to come and watch them do it. A modern day twist on the stocks.

Burnley vandals ordered to clean up graffiti (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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I saw that in the Telegraph too kate, think it maybe an idea if that were to happen here in Hyndburn too