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accyman 21-02-2011 14:48

Watch your daughters accounts on facebook for this guy
 
my friends daughter who is 13 has been contacted by a user who is 24 years old starting with what facebook call pokes then asking to meet her.My friend has informed the police but worryingly one of her friends accepted the friends request despite not knowing him.Some kids are more aware than others and luckily my friends daughter mentioned it unlike her friend who just accepted the freinds request.

it seems like this guy is trawling facebook trying to contact as many young girls as possible hoping one will meet up with him.

it could be innocent but i dont see any excuse for a 24 year old man to be messaging 13 year old girls at random to meet him

Neil 21-02-2011 15:05

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I have removed the users name in case it is the usual and very common facebook spam I have seen so much of.

The name is not important, what is important is that we teach our children to never accept a friend request from someone they do not know.

accyman 21-02-2011 15:16

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its a propper account and since recieving a message informing him the police are onto him the accounts privacey settings have been altered and you can no longer see his friends

i doubt spam would try to cover its trail and i have never heard of spam grooming young girls.

hope no one elses kids are approached by him and hopefully the police involvment will put hom off for a while

Neil 21-02-2011 15:18

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Its probably correct but the last one of these I saw on facebook had half of Accy looking for a missing child that was not missing.

It might be a proper account but the bloke might not be doing what he is accused of. Could all be lies by an ex girlfriend or who knows what.

The warning is just as relative without the persons name.


It is a good reminder for parents to sit with their kids and go through their frieds lists checking how they know each person and removing ones they do not really know.

You get the same problems with your kids playing xbox etc with people they do not know.

accyman 21-02-2011 15:31

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with this been a local guy as near as haslingden and the children approached been in accrington i thought it best to mention it.I can understand where you are coming from though.I will see what the police come up with although this is facebook and facebook are known for their reluctance to protect children we will have to see what the police can find out.If I learn more i will update this thread.

most kids have the sense to ignore or tell their parents but it only takes one to fall for it and be taken in and then it becomes more serious.

hopefully now reported this will be sorted

***Mr D*** 21-02-2011 17:03

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Good heads up.

I actually tested my daughter by using a friends 2nd account adding a dodgy looking pic and requesting friendship. Glad to report I was informed straight away.

If this happened to my daughter I would be very tempted to arrange a meet myself.;)

jaysay 21-02-2011 17:38

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Think the simple answer is to keep kids of sites like face book until they are at least 16,

garinda 21-02-2011 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 885722)
Think the simple answer is to keep kids of sites like face book until they are at least 16,

I think that hope is easier said than done.

As was posted, drill it into them, not to add people they don't know, as 'friends'.

It's like a competition for some.

Who's got the most friends.

No one can have 1,500 friends, as many youngsters do.

Scientists claim the human brain can only cope with forty friendships, and 120 aquaintances, and civilisation has developed around this fact.

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2011 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 885722)
Think the simple answer is to keep kids of sites like face book until they are at least 16,

While that is the sensible thing, it is not easy to enforce........thankfully I have no children of this age, but I have friends who do........I think banning children from using a site somehow makes it seem more exciting....and would have young girls looking for ways around the rules laid down by parents.
Children need to be educated(preferably by their parents) not to put personal information onto these sites.......to be suspicious of everyone that they do not personally know(in a face to face sense).....and always to be able to talk to their parents if they think someone online is doing things that they shouldn't.

Less 21-02-2011 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 885716)
Good heads up.

I actually tested my daughter by using a friends 2nd account adding a dodgy looking pic and requesting friendship. Glad to report I was informed straight away.

If this happened to my daughter I would be very tempted to arrange a meet myself.;)

And after testing her what do you do if she gets a message, and your daughter thinks, it's just Dad messing about and turns up because she thought it was you 'testing' again?

garinda 21-02-2011 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 885733)
....to be suspicious of everyone that they do not personally know(in a face to face sense).....and always to be able to talk to their parents if they think someone online is doing things that they shouldn't.

I'm always reporting back to my parent, about my suspicions about the folks off here, I haven't met.

:D

***Mr D*** 21-02-2011 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885727)
I think that hope is easier said than done.

As was posted, drill it into them, not to add people they don't know, as 'friends'.

It's like a competition for some.

Who's got the most friends.

No one can have 1,500 friends, as many youngsters do.

Scientists claim the human brain can only cope with forty friendships, and 120 aquaintances, and civilisation has developed around this fact.

Got to agree, my 14 yr old nieces life seems to revolve around face book.

Although a lot do go on it for the games, some friend requests will come for them. Maybe Harmless. Maybe not.

I let my daughter on it, and as I set it up, I can log in at anytime and change the password If I feel the need or to see whats going on, Lucky I have told her the score and she is good with it.

***Mr D*** 21-02-2011 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 885736)
And after testing her what do you do if she gets a message, and your daughter thinks, it's just Dad messing about and turns up because she thought it was you 'testing' again?

She doesnt know it was me, and never will.;)

Rewards where given for alerting me to a possible infultrator.:D

jaysay 21-02-2011 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885737)
I'm always reporting back to my parent, about my suspicions about the folks off here, I haven't met.

:D

Must have been doing a hell of a lot of reporting then:D

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2011 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885737)
I'm always reporting back to my parent, about my suspicions about the folks off here, I haven't met.

:D

I'm pleased to hear that G...it is sooooooo sensible of you :D

garinda 21-02-2011 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 885748)
I'm pleased to hear that G...it is sooooooo sensible of you :D

It was such a relief to finally meet you, and realise your blog wasn't a grooming tool.

:D:p:D

Tealeaf 21-02-2011 18:48

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Yeah, there are enough dodgy characters on here without resorting to Facebook.

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2011 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885763)
It was such a relief to finally meet you, and realise your blog wasn't a grooming tool.

:D:p:D

The only grooming tools I use are a flannel and a hairbrush....make of that what you will:D

accyman 21-02-2011 20:20

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just a little update

if your child is approached by a stalker or pervert the police will do nothing but advise you to contact facebook and get the account deleted.

two problems with this

1: facebook will not let you report somone with details as to why you are reporting them they only have limited options of which none regard child safety or if your child in inappropiatly approached

2: if an account is deleted theres nothing stopping the person opening up another account and carrying on pestering children.

you realy would think that a 24 year old man pestering children as young as 12 that i am aware of to go meet him for a drive in his car would at least warrant a visit from the police to at the very least have a few words in his ear

garinda 21-02-2011 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 885801)
just a little update

if your child is approached by a stalker or pervert the police will do nothing but advise you to contact facebook and get the account deleted.

two problems with this

1: facebook will not let you report somone with details as to why you are reporting them they only have limited options of which none regard child safety or if your child in inappropiatly approached

2: if an account is deleted theres nothing stopping the person opening up another account and carrying on pestering children.

you realy would think that a 24 year old man pestering children as young as 12 that i am aware of to go meet him for a drive in his car would at least warrant a visit from the police to at the very least have a few words in his ear

Just found this.
Have they reported the matter to the CEOP?

Where else can I report inappropriate or objectionable actions that have been taken against children?
Facebook takes the safety of its users very seriously and takes signif...
Facebook takes the safety of its users very seriously and takes significant efforts to make sure that the interactions encountered on the site are done so in a safe manner. We strongly urge all users to report suspicious people and inappropriate content when they come across it on the site. You can notify Facebook of any inappropriate people or content by clicking on the "Report" link located throughout the site. Users under the age of 18 are also encouraged to talk to a parent or a responsible adult immediately if someone online says or does something to make them feel uncomfortable or threatened in any way.

If you are living in the United Kingdom, under 18, and believe that an adult is acting inappropriately towards you on Facebook, please submit an online report to the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP):

shillelagh 21-02-2011 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885737)
I'm always reporting back to my parent, about my suspicions about the folks off here, I haven't met.

:D


your mothers met me ... and she likes me!!! :p

garinda 21-02-2011 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 885829)
your mothers met me ... and she likes me!!! :p

She does...even after I'd told her all about you.

:rolleyes::D

jaysay 22-02-2011 09:54

Re: Watch your daughters accounts on facebook for this guy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 885801)
just a little update

if your child is approached by a stalker or pervert the police will do nothing but advise you to contact facebook and get the account deleted.

two problems with this

1: facebook will not let you report somone with details as to why you are reporting them they only have limited options of which none regard child safety or if your child in inappropiatly approached

2: if an account is deleted theres nothing stopping the person opening up another account and carrying on pestering children.

you realy would think that a 24 year old man pestering children as young as 12 that i am aware of to go meet him for a drive in his car would at least warrant a visit from the police to at the very least have a few words in his ear

Isn't that a good enough reason for keeping young kids of sites like Facebook, as it seems they are not prepared to police it properly:(

jaysay 22-02-2011 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 885832)
She does...even after I'd told her all about you.

:rolleyes::D

You been talking out of school again:D:D

Margaret Pilkington 22-02-2011 10:06

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Jaysay, it is a good reason, but it may not be possible in practical terms.

garinda 22-02-2011 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 885934)
Isn't that a good enough reason for keeping young kids of sites like Facebook, as it seems they are not prepared to police it properly:(

The information I gave in post 20, pasted from Facebook, relates to child protection on the site.

accyman 22-02-2011 12:30

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facebook were asked by child protection agencies to have an alert button clearly at the top of each page as reporting perverts etc is extreemly difficult even if you are familiar with the site.Adults struggle to figure out how to navigate the help section nevermind children but facebook strongly opposed any improvement to making their site safer for children.Also facebook will not allow parents who are worried about their childs activity access to their childrens accounts on the grounds of privacey yet we are resposible for our childrens safety until they are 18 years of age which facebook does not recognise.

there are ways and means to check what is going on and some kids are responsible enough to know the dangers but there are some who dont and facebook point blank reuses to protect them.

sex offenders are supposedly not allowed facebook accounts but i have reported a local convicted rapist and a local convicted pedophile twice and facebook have let them keep their accounts.

anyway most here seem to have it covered but for those unaware of facebooks lack of protection for children i hope this thread has opened their eyes a little to facebooks awfull level of help should somthing happen

also thanks to garinda for the extra information

Neil 22-02-2011 12:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 885983)
anyway most here seem to have it covered but for those unaware of facebooks lack of protection for children i hope this thread has opened their eyes a little to facebooks awfull level of help should somthing happen


So do I, thanks for posting it


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