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I thought the road from Church Kirk Bridge to Rishton Papermill and the path from the swingbridge to Rishton was also a right of way - seems I am wrong?

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You mean to walk or drive?
You used to be able to get to Rishton papermill from church kirk with a car but you can't now, was a bit bumpy going down the hill towards where the motorway bridge is now :eek:

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I have looked on Multimap
Map of United Kingdom | Multimap.com
There is a break in the track on the map but on arial view and on Google Earth - a track of some sort is still there.
Has someone stopped you from using this track?

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Yes - I tried yesterday to go down both paths with a vehicle.
The entrance at the Church Kirk end is gated and padlocked.
The entrance at the copy clough end is also gated and padlocked with an upturned caravan across the road.
I lived on the farm on the left hand side going down (Park Farm) and we were responsible for the upkeep of that road.
Times have changed the road is a disgrace.
Both roads and track leading to Rishton papermill were owned by Petre estates and they were quite strict.
It seems times have changed

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It might be worthwhile contacting the local authorities to ask whether this closure of a public footpath/track was legal.
If it was, they did that very quietly!!

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Even if you get through the gate you can't go very far now, from the chicken farm the road has been reduced to just a path about 2 feet wide, they did this when the motorway was being built, I took a photo from there not long ago, it's in THIS thread

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The Ramblers might know or might WANT to know
Hyndburn Ramblers

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The road should have been diverted to go under the viaduct.
The fields at the other side down to Rishton Papermill were part of the holding. Park Farm that is. The only way to get to this land from the farm.

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They probably purchased the land when they built the motorway, the roads still there from Rishton to the bridge, there could possibly be a gate at this end into the field, can't remember now but I'll look next time i'm down there

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Yes they are........BUT............Hynburn Council are now in charge.
Nuf said?

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When a right of way exists any new owner has to preserve that right, or go through a legal procedure to remove it - and as Willow said - public consultation /publicity is part of that.
PS whilst reading this I have been Google searching - Hyndburn Council appears active in creating public paths in other areas

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It could well be that the path is still there for walking but has definitely closed to vehicular traffic. I read that the Chicken Farm owner had a vermin problem at the farm and this could have been done for selfish reasons.
I will pursue the matter with the council and let you know

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They had more than vermin, they had drugs :)
It's defnately still there for walking, went down not long ago

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Dont know anything about that.
When I were a lad my Stepfather (Walter Henderson) would have used the shotgun we had in the house (Licensed) to get shut of that problem?
Both problems

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I think this is the one

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Makes a nonsense of a warning from the police, telling us off for playing football outside Church Kirk Church :Banane26:

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It would be interesting to know how emergency vehicles could get to the farm.
have the gates been locked to cover up the wrongdoing in the area?
If these gates remain locked the area cannot be policed, No wonder it is or was a haven for drug dealing and the like.
If there are people working or living at the farm then surely access is required for the ambulance, fire service and the police service without obstruction.
I know there are members of these services on accyweb please give us your views?

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As per your request. If there is problems with gaining access to the farm a call for the Police and or Fire would be in order and until such arrive it would mean a walk to the area.

I'm not too sure of where you are talking about but think I know where you mean as it been a few years since I was down that way. If your on about the track from the Church Kirk Hump back that goes to the right had to go that way last year to the canal as there was a "scene" on the canal between Rishton and the Hare & Hounds at West End had Police, Fire and Helimed there too.

The footpath in pic ,KSH, did there used to be a tip there instead of grass? if that is so then that leads to the river and into the Dunk Estate?

Not too sure which farm/s are being talked about but guess if need be we would have to "yomp" until vehicle could be allowed to gain entry.

Hope that of some help to you.

Not too sure how Fire/Police would act though

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Hi Ber Thanks for your reply.
Church Kirk Bridge (Hump Back) was a special bridge in the early days.
Horse drawn barges were used and the tow path which runs under the bridge from the right hand side. The horses were transferred from the tow path by crossing over the bridge and rejoining the towpath down to the left of the bridge.
Looking ahead from the bridge there is a farm on the right hand side, about 75 yards. That was farmed in the early fifties by Ralph Thornley.
Leaving the farm on your left the road split in two, the road to the left led to Churh Kirk allotments (About 50 in number). The road to the right led to a landfill sight operated by the then Church Council. If you follow the road now you will see a methane gas outlet for the tip. This road continued to a cottage and a farm running alongside the canal at rishton. The farm now demolished was operated by Matt Ellison who was a sawdust merchant.

Back to Church Kirk bridge, the path to the right led to what they called "The Dunk". The path runs along the canal for about 100 yards then goes left for a further 200 yards, you then come to Park Farm on the left. Just beyond the farm the road splits in two, the road to the left was the entrance to a landfill site operated by Rishton Paper Mill. The mill waste was transported from the mill through the gate on the opposite side of the mill through the Dunk to the tip in heavy tippers. The area is now grassed over.
The road going straight down the Dunk leads to that gate and was a fully functioning road when I was a lad.

Regards............Roy

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The only people who have vehicle access down to the farm are the tennants who rent the land (my brother) being one.
there is a foot path through to rishton, there is access from rishton end
up to the motor way bridge for maintenance and for the river authority
and farm vehicles only As for the drug dealing there never was or as been any drugs found at the farm:Banane26:

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The latter is excellent news, can we then assume that drugs were found at some other location in the area?

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Conformation of rights of way:
Church Kirk Bridge to viaduct via Park Farm FP 19.
FP 26 adjoins FP 19 at the Church end this side of the viaduct takes you under the viaduct to Holt Mill (Rishton Paper Mill)
Church Kirk Bridge to Rishton Canal towpath via allotments FP 18 & FP 34.
Church Kirk Bridge over the former council landfill (Tip) to meet FP 34 at Rishton Canal is a bridleway.

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Could do with him being around now.

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Who?????????