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ChrisMG 18-10-2006 16:23

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There must have been a huge amount of building work taking place around the late 1800s and early 1900s but I've never seen any photographic evidence, rows & rows of new terraced houses going up etc. I'm sure some must exist. please post if you have any. Would also be interested in any photos of Argyle street, Milnshaw lane and Walter Street.

Cheers
MG.

AccyJay 18-10-2006 16:43

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Have a look in the photo section of this site.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...2/broadway.htm

:)

ChrisMG 18-10-2006 18:20

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Yep, thanks. I'm a regular visitor to the Accrington uncovered site. It's more the construction of all the terraced streets that I'm interested in. The building of Bold Street, Stanley Street etc.
Ah well. Dont suppose cameras were that common in those days.

Madhatter 18-10-2006 20:23

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There seems to be a lot of postcards of towns about for 1905 period so there may be some, it's just that not seem to have been took of new building work.

cmonstanley 18-10-2006 20:38

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it would be interesting who named the streets and the history of the names of the streets ....

WillowTheWhisp 18-10-2006 22:35

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We've had reference to the history of some streets and their names in the past. Abbey Street is quite an obvious one. Willows lane probably had willow trees. Some, like Steiner Street, were named after people. Water Street and Lodge Street have got somethng to do with underground water and there was an actual lodge between the two at one time.

Lolly 19-10-2006 17:26

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The streets off Blackburn Rd: India Street, Swiss Street, China Steet etc.. are all named after places that mills in the area exported cotton to.

I know a lot more about street names in Ossy, more than Accy.

glasgow guy 22-10-2006 10:07

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so what about the australia street in clayton ( brisbane , adelaide , etc) are those named after the same thing - export ? or...?? and does anyone know of any pics of them from way back..

thanks

Wynonie Harris 22-10-2006 20:37

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When I was growing up, we lived in a street called Claret Street. I've since found out, thanks to streetmap, that it's the only street of that name in the UK. I'd love to know where the name came from. Perhaps the builders were partial to a tipple?

WillowTheWhisp 25-10-2006 19:37

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Maybe they were closet Burnley supporters. ;)

Wynonie Harris 25-10-2006 21:36

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If that thought had occurred to me while we were living there, I'd have demanded a move to Stanley Street!

WillowTheWhisp 25-10-2006 21:43

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I wonder if residents of Bold Street were braver than those elsewhere? And who was the original Stanley?

ChrisMG 26-10-2006 11:42

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Believe it or not Accrington Street names are named because of the following:
Stanley Street - Stan Laurel was born there.
Bold Street - The man who built the street also invented a biological washing powder.

Honest!

Atarah 27-10-2006 12:54

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Haha dont believe you about Bold Street and Stan Lauren most certainly had nothing whatsoever to do with Stanley Street! Trust me!!!

ha ha ha

Bazf 13-11-2006 18:18

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In the 70s we had a school project to name streets in Accrington, we all had to find 10 streets and find out how or why they were named, Accy library had a stack of info in them days, I remember spending loads of time going through old newspapers and council papers. Sorry the memory ain't what it used to be but I did Royds St, named after a milll owner, Nuttall St, which had something to do with a Judge, Wellington St, which had nothing to do with the battle but was named after a pub on the street. If I remember any more I will put it in but I am pretty sure the Accy historians will know more then a school kid project. :)

WillowTheWhisp 13-11-2006 21:24

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The books are probably still there in the reference library.

cmonstanley 13-11-2006 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisMG
Believe it or not Accrington Street names are named because of the following:
Stanley Street - Stan Laurel was born there.
Bold Street - The man who built the street also invented a biological washing powder.

Honest!

:D :D yuoll be resting on your laurels:D :xena_bana

cmonstanley 13-11-2006 22:29

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what about radnor street orange street pilot street cromwell avenue..

WillowTheWhisp 14-11-2006 07:01

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Cromwell Avenue used to be Cromwell Street.

Don't tell us Oliver was born there!
:D

accymel 14-11-2006 08:06

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Now wheres the budding historians to shed more light on the subject :confused:

katex 26-11-2006 14:52

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Originally Posted by Bazf (Post 334783)
Wellington St, which had nothing to do with the battle but was named after a pub on the street.

Seems like some of our streets were named after National heroes such as Wellington, Nelson Square and Cromwell Street. As are some after politicians Davy Street (now demolished) Lister and Pitt Street.

Found an interesting one in a book 'An Accrington Miscellany' Frank Davy tells of:-

'It was a death that gave Elephant Street its name. In 1845 and elephant called "Chimney", purchased by Wombwell for his circus and standing 11ft 4ins. high and weighing more than 5 tons, died in Accrington. This tragedy, caused so much local interest that a street under construction was named Elephant Street to commemorate the event'

For the life of me can't find this street on any of the recent maps, so much have been demolished by now.

Seems Rhyddings is an Old English derivation and means "A clearing in the Forest" ! Well, still have the park.

WillowTheWhisp 26-11-2006 15:39

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It doesn't exist now Katex. This was a source of amusement for some friends of mine at one time as I used to insist that as a child I remembered there being an Elephant Street but nobody else could remember it and they kept insisting I must have dreamt it. It was round the back of New Jerusalem church. In fact it was AccyWeb which vindicated me because somebody produced not only documentary evidence but also a photograph of it and yes it was the street I remembered. I think I'd gone to a youth club somewhere round there once or twice, maybe the youth club belonged to New Jerusalem. I know I wasn't very old (12 or 13 maybe) and there was a lad I fancied! :D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1095255747

katex 26-11-2006 17:28

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Ah yes, Willow thanks for that .. did a search and found the thread under Pitt Street in June 2004 .. surprising how many posts contain the word 'elephant' ...:D

Wynonie Harris 26-11-2006 20:12

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While idly googling around, I've just discovered something I never knew. New Jerusalem was the largest Swedenborgian church in the country and was known as the "cathedral" of that faith. So, why was it built in a small Lancashire town and not in some large city? Anyone know?

katex 26-11-2006 20:26

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 341446)
While idly googling around, I've just discovered something I never knew. New Jerusalem was the largest Swedenborgian church in the country and was known as the "cathedral" of that faith. So, why was it built in a small Lancashire town and not in some large city? Anyone know?

What is Swedenborgian ?? Suppose same reason the big Morman Church is in Bolton; thought we were all ignorant easily persuaded converts.

Wynonie Harris 26-11-2006 20:39

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It's a religion based on the teachings of Emanuel Swedenborg. Think it's similar to Christianity. Thought the big Mormon chuch was somewhere south of Preston? You can see it from the M61, can't you? No doubt Willow will enlighten us!

katex 26-11-2006 20:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 341464)
It's a religion based on the teachings of Emanuel Swedenborg. Think it's similar to Christianity. Thought the big Mormon chuch was somewhere south of Preston? You can see it from the M61, can't you? No doubt Willow will enlighten us!

Just off Junction 6 M61 .. sorry meant meant Chorley.

WillowTheWhisp 26-11-2006 22:18

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That's not a big Mormon church. It's a temple. Would you like the explanation of why it's there?

There are only 2 of them in this country, the other one is at Newchapel near Lingfield in Surrey and is called the London Temple. The one at Chorley is called the Preston Temple! :D We just do that to baffle you all.

There are loads of ordinary chapels/churches throughout the country - some purpose built and some in rented rooms or converted from other things. At one time the chapel at Chorley was in a sort of old converted factory/warehouse type building with a funny little spike stuck on the side for a spire.

entwisi 27-11-2006 06:57

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I was in a hotel the other week whilst on a training course and I was surprised to find not only a standard bible but the Mormon equivilant(Sorry, can't for the life of me remember its proper name). Just struck me as odd as I had never really thought about it.

I've always been intruiged about different religions, Paganism, Wicca, Mormon etc. The family of one girl I knew were heavily into some weird sect thing and it always made me wonder how people got into different religions, e.g. we tend to have christianity thrown at us in this country, Islam would be pushed as teh dominant religion in Muslim communities so you can understand people following them, I'm interested as to how most people get involved in the 'lesser known' ones.

WillowTheWhisp 27-11-2006 08:24

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 341604)
I was in a hotel the other week whilst on a training course and I was surprised to find not only a standard bible but the Mormon equivilant(Sorry, can't for the life of me remember its proper name).

It's called The Book of Mormon Ian ;) That's why they call us 'Mormons' which is actually a nickname but we're so used to it that we call ourselves that too. The correct name of the church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" and the members are the latter-day saints. That doesn't mean we are all holy saintly and wonderful. (But anyone who knows me shouldn't need to be told that! :D )It relates to the name St Paul gave the early Christians in the Bible. They didn't use the name "Christian" back then. ( Example Ephesians 2:19 - "Now therefore ye are no more strangers but fellow citizens with the saints and of the houehold of God." ) The latter-day bit means us living in this day and age as opposed to them living way back then.

Oh yeah, and it's not actually a Mormon equivalent of the Bible. People are often surprised to learn that we do use the Bible, the King James version, and this year in our adult Sunday school class we are studying the Old Testament. We've just been doing Daniel. It's gripping stuff. The BOM is an entirely different thing written by and about people living on the other side of the world before and after the life of Christ who had prophesies about his coming and then believers in him after he'd been.


Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 341604)
I've always been intruiged about different religions, Paganism, Wicca, Mormon etc.

Me too, I'm fascinated by different beliefs and have a great regard for many of them, in particular those which respect the earth and other people. Some pagan religions have a great affinity for animal life and the environment.

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 341604)

I'm interested as to how most people get involved in the 'lesser known' ones.

I became what I am basically due to my insatiable curiosity in the first place. Before I was LDS I had vaguely heard of them but knew very little. As I was always looking into things and beliefs I knew nothing about, when I encountered a real live Mormon colleague I bombarded him with questions and probably drove him up the wall! I adamantly refused to 'meet the missionaries' to be taught or 'indoctrinated' as I described it at the time and just wanted to read all I could get my hands on (pro and con) and ask questions. That progressed to going along to choir rehearsals to have a look at some more of these weirdos and then to the Sunday meetings to see what they got up to. The more I found out the more I liked.......................

That's enough waffling for now before anyone accuses me of preaching.
:D

cashman 09-12-2006 16:20

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just noticed this thread, the photo of elephant street brings back memories, the building painted white was an old watering hole of mine early 60s, the WELCOME INN, a mathew brown/ lion house, the top of that block opposite side, with the front door on birtwistle street, no 27 was the infamous "Black Annies" lodging house of ill repute.;)

Bazf 18-12-2006 13:24

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http://www.btinternet.com/~jim.britcliffe/britrow.jpg



Robert Britcliffe eventually became a flannel manufacturer on his own account, and aquired considerable property, among which was Britcliffe Row in Accrington.
Britcliffe Row, situated between Maudsley Street and Meadow Street, Accrington, is an old landmark of Whalley Road. The cottages are examples of a type that were erected in Accrington at the close of the 18th century and during the first 25 years of the nineteenth century. They have throughout their long history ben associated with the Britcliffe family, hence their name The houses still have their gardens in front, a practice similarly followed by the houses that came to be erected in Abbey Street. Stone walls enclose them, with the round-headed flat gateway posts as originally placed there in the last decade of the 18th century. They were erected soon after the construction of the present Whalley Road in 1794. They were then quite in the country, with open fields and meadow behind, from which Meadow Street derives its name. At that time the cottages were more considerably elevated than thay are at the present time and formed a terrace approached from the road by a step or two. At present they are below the level of the road owing to the road surface being raised.

Retlaw 21-01-2007 21:45

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 323051)
We've had reference to the history of some streets and their names in the past. Abbey Street is quite an obvious one. Willows lane probably had willow trees. Some, like Steiner Street, were named after people. Water Street and Lodge Street have got somethng to do with underground water and there was an actual lodge between the two at one time.

The first Water St is now under what was the Ritz cinema, the recetly vacated Barnes Furniture.

Retlaw.

cmonstanley 11-05-2007 21:32

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still nobody knows anything about orange street???????????/

Retlaw 14-08-2008 14:53

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Just been reading this thread again.

I have an old map of Accrington dated 1863 and there are about 50 streets drawn in red of the proposed new buildings, and the street names are already written in. So some one must have decided then, what the new streets were to be called. Most of the houses didn't get built till 1880 - 1900.

Retlaw.

cashman 14-08-2008 15:09

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Originally Posted by Bazf (Post 353598)
http://www.btinternet.com/~jim.britcliffe/britrow.jpg



Robert Britcliffe eventually became a flannel manufacturer on his own account, and aquired considerable property, among which was Britcliffe Row in Accrington.
Britcliffe Row, situated between Maudsley Street and Meadow Street, Accrington, is an old landmark of Whalley Road. The cottages are examples of a type that were erected in Accrington at the close of the 18th century and during the first 25 years of the nineteenth century. They have throughout their long history ben associated with the Britcliffe family, hence their name The houses still have their gardens in front, a practice similarly followed by the houses that came to be erected in Abbey Street. Stone walls enclose them, with the round-headed flat gateway posts as originally placed there in the last decade of the 18th century. They were erected soon after the construction of the present Whalley Road in 1794. They were then quite in the country, with open fields and meadow behind, from which Meadow Street derives its name. At that time the cottages were more considerably elevated than thay are at the present time and formed a terrace approached from the road by a step or two. At present they are below the level of the road owing to the road surface being raised.

the big house on the corner is where Vinnie Power n his family lived fer many years.;)

wadey 15-08-2008 20:18

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Great thread this and it is hard to imagine just how much building work was going on. Churches, schools, hospitals, houses etc etc. The quarries must have been working flat out and all the stone moved by horses amazing really. You can often get a guide to the date of building by the names in particular after the Crimean War.

Bob Dobson 15-08-2008 20:53

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There has been a lot of posts in the Street Names thread. I started it and want to do more, but am short of time. Stanley is likely connected with Stanley family, Lord derby's lot. Bold may be Bold fam,ily from SW Lancs. These and many more would be named by the Peels who owned Burnley rd land.

I am not aware of any photos for street construction, but would love to be informed if any turn up.

When considering street names, it is important to know when they were laid out. The Blackburn rd ones ( Persia etc) were named after countries with which Steiners did business. They owned that land. There is a card index in the library. I looked Dill Hall uplast week, but found nothing I suspect it was named because it went to Dill Hall farm, which may have been Dill Hall before it was a farm.


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